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Title: Did adding a OWB increase or decrease your power bill?
Post by: hrc200x on December 03, 2014, 10:12:42 PM
Got my first electric bill since I installed and fired up the boiler. Not complaining by any means but seems that adding the boiler increased it by $14 for one month. Was thinking and hoping that since the burner and fuel oil pump on the fuel oil boiler wouldn't be running the circulation pump and fan on the OWB would cancel eachother out, but guess thats not the case. The zone valves and pumps are probably working a bit more on the indoor side of things seeing as the water temp runs 20 degrees cooler than it would running on fuel oil. Water heater is propane and even the pilot light has been turned off for over a month so no gas usage there.
Title: Re: Did adding a OWB increase or decrease your power bill?
Post by: RSI on December 03, 2014, 10:20:06 PM
What pump model do you have?
Title: Re: Did adding a OWB increase or decrease your power bill?
Post by: Ridge on December 04, 2014, 03:33:25 AM
Decreased by $29 on first month of operation, it was the lowest bill we have had, ($93)
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Post by: Roger2561 on December 04, 2014, 03:45:24 AM
My electric bill increases almost double from $30.00/month in the non-heating season to $60.00/month through the heating season.  I'm not complaining at all because it is much cheaper to heat my house with the OWB compared to the oil burner.  I was paying out over $5,100.00 a year for fuel oil.  I can live with paying out $150.00 more over 5 months.  If anyone wonders what circ I have is it's a taco 009-F5 at the OWB.  Roger
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Post by: Mizzou71 on December 04, 2014, 06:49:02 AM
Non-heating season $150 avg (Air Conditioning)
Heating season $78 avg
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Post by: LittleJohn on December 04, 2014, 08:12:52 AM
Sorry can't help you, OWB right along side the new house and detached shop, SO I WILL NEVER KNOW
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Post by: fryedaddy on December 04, 2014, 11:23:50 AM
My house was heated with and older HVAC which only has strip heat and an OWB.

My Father-In-Law installed gas logs to supplement.

If I used the strip heat I'd be pushing $6-700.00/mnth.
Running the OWB, I'm at $250-300/mnth.

This is a 3,500sqft +/- block house.
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Post by: JTS717 on December 04, 2014, 12:11:48 PM
My electric bill dropped $40 from last year at this time.  Last year I was heating with an indoor forced air wood furnace that has an 850 CFM fan which ran almost 24/7.  I also have an electric 50 gallon water heater which I flipped the breaker off to since I installed the sidearm.  I am running a 3 stage grundfos 15-58 pump on medium.




Title: Re: Did adding a OWB increase or decrease your power bill?
Post by: userdk on December 04, 2014, 01:31:44 PM
Way down!!
Title: Re: Did adding a OWB increase or decrease your power bill?
Post by: hrc200x on December 04, 2014, 03:05:02 PM
Those of you that the bill went down, do you know why? What was running that currently is not with the OWB?

Pump on OWB is a Grundofos UP26-99F 1/6 HP more info here:

http://www.supplyhouse.com/Grundfos-52722355-UP26-99F-Circulator-Pump-1-6-HP-115-volt-5580000-p (http://www.supplyhouse.com/Grundfos-52722355-UP26-99F-Circulator-Pump-1-6-HP-115-volt-5580000-p)

I didn't keep my bills from last winter when heating with only fuel oil, but I don't recall them going up much, last bill I have is from end of last winter (march) and I think it was still cold here in northern MN.

Lights are being used more as it gets dark at 5:00, but I live alone, so its not like there is a tremendous usage.
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Post by: jamesbodeis on December 04, 2014, 06:27:51 PM
My hot water heater is shut off, plus the oil boiler does not run at all. Honeywell pump on the stove and a taco 007 in the house. My bill is down 50-60 bucks a month.
Title: Re: Did adding a OWB increase or decrease your power bill?
Post by: JTS717 on December 04, 2014, 06:58:10 PM
Here is what was running last year that isn't running this year: Fan on indoor wood furnace (running constant), Electric water heater.

Here is what is running this year that wasn't running last year: Blower fan on OWB, Grundfos 15-58 pump, furnace fan(kicks on and off, thermostat controls it)

The big money saver for me is not using electricity to run my water heater.
Title: Re: Did adding a OWB increase or decrease your power bill?
Post by: andyhowardcity on December 04, 2014, 07:21:53 PM
Before Boiler:
Electric bill per month: 250 to 325
Propane bill per season: $900
Indoor pre-fab fireplace: 7-8 cord of wood. Up in middle of the night to keep fire going :o
House temp: 60-65 main floor and high 50s in second story.  Frozen pipes in basement during negative degree days  :P :bash:

Since boiler:
Electric: 150 tops
Propane: 0 (Have 120 gallon back up for insurance purposes I haven't touched)
House temp 73
Wood: 10-12 cord per season roughly.

The electric was forty dollars cheaper when my side arm was working (think I have an air lock :bash:)
 :pic:how you like me now, propane and Consumers Energy :thumbup:
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Post by: yotehunter66 on December 04, 2014, 07:23:26 PM
Up $20 since I have to run the pump and blower on the stove.
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Post by: AirForcePOL on December 05, 2014, 07:56:01 AM
I would say $14 a month to heat your house is pretty dang good.  My bill went down only because of my water heater.  It saves me about $45 a month. 
Title: Re: Did adding a OWB increase or decrease your power bill?
Post by: Ed165 on December 05, 2014, 05:59:00 PM
All electric house 2500 sq ft. before OWB winter electric was 850.00 to 1000.00 per month after OWB 125.00 per month
 
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Post by: userdk on December 05, 2014, 07:48:11 PM
Up $20 since I have to run the pump and blower on the stove.
Are you heating water with the boiler?
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Post by: aries9245 on December 06, 2014, 07:21:36 AM
I went up I guess between radiant pumps and owb pump and fan it's alot higher especially in colder months.. Better than paying 7k a yr in propane I spend about 1200 on propane a yr now runs dryer stove top hot water heater and backup for boiler
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Post by: Ridge on December 07, 2014, 07:02:52 AM
Just got second month bill, saved $30 the first month and second month saved $11 from previous average, still better than average
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Post by: kc on December 07, 2014, 11:47:04 AM
Decreased.   The difference in my electric bill is my hot water heater is off.   This is my third winter with the stove and my electric bill drops $40 - $50 per month not running the water heater but the big savings is not having to purchase propane.   With the cold winter last year I figure I saved $3000 to $4000 on propane costs.   Running the pump and small blower on the stove does not burn much juice compared to lighting up a heating element...

kc
Title: Re: Did adding a OWB increase or decrease your power bill?
Post by: GCTerpfan on December 10, 2014, 02:03:14 PM
My bill went from averaging $150-$165 to the last being $89.  I contribute it to turning my DHW tank off. A house with 5 kids (two teenagers) and a wife uses a LOT of hot water.
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Post by: mlappin on December 10, 2014, 11:03:18 PM
To be perfectly honest, with two cattle waterers with 750 watt heaters in each, then with two tractors plugged in almost all winter one with a 1000 watt  block heater and the other with a 1500 watt block heater an itty bitty pump running on a boiler isn't even noticeable. What is noticeable is a $28 a month nat gas bill instead of a $500 a month nat gas bill. The $28/month is my minimum I can pay with pipeline charge, maintenance  and all the other crap.
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Post by: Ched Bull on December 11, 2014, 11:00:38 AM
All electric 1800 sq. foot home last November 380.00, this November 140.00  Yah Buddy this is freeking great! ;D
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Post by: aries9245 on December 24, 2014, 09:36:00 AM
Man i couldn't be so lucky!   ???
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Post by: treeeman00 on December 27, 2014, 12:57:55 AM
I used to heat with all electric and my bill was usually $350-$380 a month.  Since I put my heatmaster in my bill is right around $100
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Post by: Mike.Blount on January 22, 2015, 10:13:45 AM
I fired up my home made boiler in late November,  I live in Northern Indiana  It hasn't been as cold as last winter, but we did have a colder December it seems.  For my first bill there was a 1,900 drop in Kilowatt Hours.  I went from all electric baseboard heat,  to ducts, and a furnace and heat exchanger.  I didn't even hook gas to the furnace, I strictly use just the blower.   I'm anxious to see what its going to be for the January bill.
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Post by: kommandokenny on January 22, 2015, 11:54:15 AM
. Was thinking and hoping that since the burner and fuel oil pump on the fuel oil boiler wouldn't be running the circulation pump and fan on the OWB would cancel eachother out,

The pump on the OWB is on continuously!
The fans come on when needed.
If your pumping water 24/7  your going to use more juice than when your oil/fuel pump comes on demand.

I guess?
kk
Title: Re: Did adding a OWB increase or decrease your power bill?
Post by: hrc200x on January 22, 2015, 03:43:57 PM
Yep, most of it is the pump, hooked it into a thing that tells you how much it would cost to run a month and it was about $12.50, so that plus the fan, and since the water is running cooler than it does with the fuel oil boiler (180 on fuel, 155-160 OWB after it transfers through the water to water exchanger) the zone pumps will need to run more often/longer than when fuel oil was used.