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Title: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: Chas on January 01, 2015, 06:42:51 PM
I just read that Michigan's Governor Snyder signed Senate Bill 910, now Public Act 417 of 2014. It prohibits the Michigan DEQ from enforcing any new EPA rule restrictions on wood stoves and wood burning appliances. The article states that the owners of Hawken Energy, Z Supply, and Ridgewood Stoves all testified at a hearing on the legislation how the EPA rules would harm their businesses and other small businesses. The article is on  http://www.nfib.com/article/?cmsid=65836 (http://www.nfib.com/article/?cmsid=65836)
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: Shrek1112 on January 01, 2015, 07:19:42 PM
 :post:
Great day for Michiganders. Less intrusion from the DEQ and the MSU Spartans come back to win their second strait bowl game :thumbup:
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: MattyNH on January 01, 2015, 08:40:27 PM
Read the article..Thats great!...Hopefully other states will do what Michigan gov did
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: yotehunter66 on January 02, 2015, 12:22:15 AM
Sounds great but probably something that will be settled by a court outside of michigan. Federal law trumps state law and everything the EPA gets away with becomes federal law. Total bs!
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: ijon on January 02, 2015, 04:47:45 AM
There used to be something called states rights. 
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: mlappin on January 02, 2015, 05:40:52 AM
There used to be something called states rights.

Used to be, Obamacare added another nail to the coffin on that one.
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: Chas on January 02, 2015, 06:01:40 AM
I just changed the link to the article so it is easier to find.
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: Jwood on January 02, 2015, 07:06:03 AM
My state of Minnesota was trying to pass something to nullify anything with the EPA
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: aries9245 on January 02, 2015, 07:10:23 AM
That's great news.. I'm sure the fuel/oil mongrels had a lot to do with it padding congress pockets there afraid they will loose profit some free country
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: yotehunter66 on January 02, 2015, 07:49:54 AM
The question is how far is the state willing to go to protect their new law. We all know the federal government loves to, how do you say it, blackmail or extort by threatening to withhold federal dollars in some form or fashion. Even the the Supreme Court just recently ruled they couldn't do that, Medicare expansion, they will try it and the State has to be ready to fight.
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: aries9245 on January 03, 2015, 06:38:40 AM
So true Yotehunter!
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: Shrek1112 on January 03, 2015, 07:24:33 AM
Our Governor has done wait he has said he would for the last four years. I hope he will for the next four especially regarding this. 
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: yotehunter66 on January 03, 2015, 09:32:26 PM
 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: userdk on January 05, 2015, 03:36:00 PM
 ^-^ ^-^ :) :D 8)Get Wisconsin in on this one!!!!!  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: ijon on January 05, 2015, 04:38:31 PM
The question is how far is the state willing to go to protect their new law. We all know the federal government loves to, how do you say it, blackmail or extort by threatening to withhold federal dollars in some form or fashion. Even the the Supreme Court just recently ruled they couldn't do that, Medicare expansion, they will try it and the State has to be ready to fight.
If the states didn't send them dollars they won't have anything to blackmail us with.
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: userdk on January 05, 2015, 09:26:48 PM
EPA got defunded. Hope they won't be able to fight it.
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: slimjim on January 06, 2015, 02:38:31 AM
We will find out today if that spineless POS John BONER gets his seat confirmed, if so I would expect more of the same, if not and he gets replaced, we may have a fighting chance to turn this nation around!
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: yotehunter66 on January 06, 2015, 03:59:04 AM
Well no matter who they put in there they have two years to prove they can do something positive. We won't get any real change until they get the presidency. The ideology in this country has moved so far to one side or the other that there isn't much compromise.
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: ijon on January 06, 2015, 05:32:19 AM
Well no matter who they put in there they have two years to prove they can do something positive. We won't get any real change until they get the presidency. The ideology in this country has moved so far to one side or the other that there isn't much compromise.
Makes you want to puke.
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: aries9245 on January 06, 2015, 03:39:10 PM
Sad
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: userdk on January 06, 2015, 04:06:10 PM
Boehner got it.
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: Shrek1112 on January 06, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
Bohener getting it means we are all getting the bone.  >:(
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: skorpyd on January 06, 2015, 05:20:24 PM
Bohener getting it means we are all getting the bone.  >:(

Yep.I agree.   We are only going over the cliff at a slightly lower speed now.
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: ijon on January 06, 2015, 07:14:56 PM
Do you remember when Boehner got in the first time he cried. Truth is we should have been crying.
Title: Re: Michigan Senate Bill 910 signed by Governor
Post by: Shrek1112 on January 06, 2015, 08:24:36 PM
Isn't that the truth, still crying.... :'(