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Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => Portage & Main => Topic started by: american-pacemaker on February 08, 2015, 05:58:06 PM

Title: Broken Nozzle
Post by: american-pacemaker on February 08, 2015, 05:58:06 PM
Hey Slim thanks for the help on my 25 tonight. I let it burn down an you were 100 % right. The nozzle is broken and falling in on itself. If I were to take out the broken piece the nozzle looks like it will be huge. The sad part is my boiler has only been running for six weeks, we fired it the first time xmas eve.
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: slimjim on February 09, 2015, 01:31:29 AM
Any time Larry, how badly is it broken, is it just the edge and can you get the broken portion out OK to get it running, it is pretty normal for a chip to break off the sharp edge and the stove will still perform just fine but I suggest that you give Rory or Brian a call and have them get Karl to send you one of his nozzles. How about a picture?
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: american-pacemaker on February 09, 2015, 05:05:23 AM
I will try to get a picture when I get home. The nozzle has a crack about 2 - 3 " long and is closing up the nozzle. I wanted to take
the piece out but wasn't sure if that would cause more problems with how the boiler runs.
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: slimjim on February 09, 2015, 05:06:46 AM
If it is blocking air flow through the nozzle then by all means remove it.
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: american-pacemaker on February 09, 2015, 08:55:11 AM
I spoke with Brian this AM and he will have one of Karl K's nozzles on the way !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: jreimer on February 09, 2015, 06:03:15 PM
Ok, now I need to know what the difference between the factory nozzles and Karls's nozzles is. I go through a nozzle per year so far. 3 years, 3 nozzles.
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: karlk on February 10, 2015, 01:46:17 AM
ancient chinese secrete
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: slimjim on February 10, 2015, 02:15:28 AM
Simple really, I think Karls are better quality and he opened them up so they don't plug as easily, I'm still trying to plug mine Karl and last time I looked I see no wear.
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: karlk on February 10, 2015, 02:24:16 AM
The difference is mine are a combination of design from slim and marty . Both of them know this boiler better than anyone.
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: slimjim on February 10, 2015, 02:36:15 AM
3 minds thinking, and voila, Karls nozzle!
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: american-pacemaker on February 10, 2015, 04:52:53 AM
I cant get it soon enough, I removed the broken parts but the boiler is making lots of charcoal !!!!!!
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: karlk on February 10, 2015, 05:02:22 AM
I will ship your nozzle today. I will pm your tracking number
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: american-pacemaker on February 10, 2015, 10:24:36 AM
Thanks Karl, this boiler has been running great till the nozzle started falling apart  :bash:
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: Sloppy_Snood on February 11, 2015, 07:49:04 AM
I will ship your nozzle today. I will pm your tracking number

Hey Karl,,,

Is there any way to make your nozzle a "hot swap" (i.e. quick, easy replacement) design? 

What I mean is, if the nozzle is going to wear, what about making it easy to just pull the existing nozzle and replace it as needed (preferably without re-cementing it back into the firebrick in the bottom of the firebox).

I have not thought about how this would be performed but I was wondering if you or Slim or P&M thought about this as a an intended design.

Cheers!  -Sloppy
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: slimjim on February 11, 2015, 09:16:48 AM
It is done Slopster, the original is mortared in but there is no need to do that, especially on the replacement
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: Sloppy_Snood on February 11, 2015, 09:22:51 AM
It is done Slopster, the original is mortared in but there is no need to do that, especially on the replacement
Good deal then for Optimizer owners!  WOOT!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: american-pacemaker on February 11, 2015, 12:53:29 PM
Karl and slim or anyone else that has this new nozzle is there any changes in how your running the boiler with this new nozzle ?
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: karlk on February 12, 2015, 02:24:59 AM
I havent made any changes to mine. Runs fine
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: american-pacemaker on February 17, 2015, 01:59:15 PM
Just wanted to let KarlK and others know I have had the nozzle in for three days now and so far has been running great  :thumbup:
Thanks KarlK for a great part, it hasn't plugged up at all in the three days running. The only problem was how P&M told me to remove the old nozzle. It will not come out the way the factory told me to remove it  :bash: :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: randy_1 on February 18, 2015, 06:22:39 PM
How did they say to remove the old one?
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: karlk on February 19, 2015, 02:20:10 AM
Im glad to hear its working well.
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: american-pacemaker on February 19, 2015, 05:21:20 AM
They said to just pry it up from the bottom. This separated the joint in the main refractory and that's when I stopped and spoke with slimjim. Whom ever thought the nozzle should be mortared in at the factory should rethink there engineering skills  :bash:. This nozzle
was in so tight it had to be broken apart from the top side with a support from the bottom.
Title: Re: Broken Nozzle
Post by: slimjim on February 19, 2015, 05:53:32 AM
Glad you got her out Larry!