Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => HeatMaster => Topic started by: dieseld on March 02, 2015, 02:07:29 PM
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New to forum. I live in central Pennsylvania in a 2400 sq. ft. house and am currently looking at buying a Heat Master MF5000 stove. Any input on this stove would be GREATLY appreciated. I would be heating my house, dhw, and possibly my inground swimming pool.
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Welcome dieseld first year with MF 5000 love it heating 3200 sq ft and Dhw one match started it in October been going ever since. I'm in sw MI have used 9 cord of wood probably will use one more haven't had any issues good luck on what ever u get
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That's great to hear. Did you install yourself? I'm really leaning towards this unit. Thank you for your reply.
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I'm in my 5th season with my 5000, and love it. i heat 2100sq ft dhw, and my 30x40 shop. I work 12 hr shifts and easily have to 14-15 hours between fills. only issues ive had is fan quit on me 2 seasons ago (but i think that was my fault, i found out after the fact that i was supposed to oil it but wasnt) And only other issue was very first season pump had electrical short in it (dealer replaced pump right away)
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welcome dieseld (what does that stand for?)
good choice on the boiler, seems to be a lot of fans of HM on here. But why not get an E or C series? They claim 20-30% wood savings over standard.
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I would recommend a 10,000e. I think you might be pushing the limits depending your particular setup.
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I thought Pa had already adopted the EPA phase II standard where traditional furnaces couldn't be sold.
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I would recommend a 10,000e. I think you might be pushing the limits depending your particular setup.
A 10,000e for 2,400 sq ft? A 5000 should handle it just fine.
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Can't go wrong with the 5000 or 5000E. I've had both and the 5000E burns less wood...something in the order of 15-20% less. My 5000 threw sparks out the chimney while my 5000E has never done it yet. Take a look at that C series i think it is even better. I had a chance to get one before I bought the 5000E but it was a brand new model (had no model number or name) and I wanted to stick with what I knew. I kinda of wished I would have tried the C series even though I am very happy with my 5000E. Do you have a dealer nearby?
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I must have skipped over the swimming pool part....
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The pool really shouldn't factor into your selection very much. Likely, you'll only be using the pool heater in the shoulder seasons when the load on your house is at its lowest.
Most homeowners open they pool at the end of May and close in early September. Adding the stove, I think, buys you another month each direction. So, April and half September/October. Most folks are either shutting down or starting up at that time.
I think a 5K would suffice assuming decent insulation. But, like Yoder said, isn't PA a phase 2 state??
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You will be much happier being oversized than undersized. Don't let a few thousand dollars ruin your wood burning experience. You will have many more options available to you in the future being oversized,trust me.
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Thank you guys for all the responses. Local dealer just received some MF units on Saturday. Going to check them out this week. From what I've been told the phase 2 will be state wide this June in Pa.
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Phase II is the current standard in PA, the state adopted several years ago.
http://www.pabulletin.com/secure/data/vol40/40-40/1876.html (http://www.pabulletin.com/secure/data/vol40/40-40/1876.html)
http://www.forgreenheat.org/technology/outdoor_wood_boilers.html (http://www.forgreenheat.org/technology/outdoor_wood_boilers.html)
http://www.jonestownship.com/Main/outdoor_furnaces%5B1%5D.pdf (http://www.jonestownship.com/Main/outdoor_furnaces%5B1%5D.pdf)
Its my understanding if you buy a MF model furnace in Pa and burn wood in it you would be breaking the law.
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Ok just talked to local dealer, he is trying sell me a C250 model. Anyone have any opinions on this?????
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You will be much happier being oversized than undersized. Don't let a few thousand dollars ruin your wood burning experience. You will have many more options available to you in the future being oversized,trust me.
I would have yo agree, also go a big bigger. I'm on my first year with a PM bl2840 and I should have bought the bigger unit to allow for growth, on really cold days with north wind my house and hog water are almodt to much for it. Easier to spend a little more up front and then it eek tvwork so hard.
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C250 is a really good furnace, still not a phase II furnace and legally you could only burn coal in it from my limited understanding of state law.
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If the dealer were to sell it exclusively for coal, you would probably be on your own if some nosy neighbor (who happens to be on the town board) were to turn you in burning wood.