Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => Central Boiler => Topic started by: Roger2561 on May 01, 2015, 04:16:09 PM
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Hi, about a week ago I shut down my E-Classic 1400 and I began cleaning it a couple of days ago. Last night as I was scraping the creosote from the back corners I notice a crack had developed in the rear left hand corner. It's the welded seam that makes up the air channel, the water jacket has not been compromised. It's approximately 6 inches long. I think I'll take the opportunity to call my Central Boiler rep and get an idea how much they charge for the removable panels that make up the air channel. I might as well get the panels and have a pro install them so I no longer have to struggle cleaning the primary air holes. I'll keep you posted as to how it goes.
Roger
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Let them know what you do for them here on the forum Roger, perhaps it might help!
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That a picture of the crack in the firebox of my E-Classic 1400. Thankfully the water jacket wasn't compromised. I'm still waiting to hear back CB whether they will pay a professional welder to weld the thing for me.
http://s492.photobucket.com/user/Roger2561/media/Crack%20E-Classic%201400.jpg.html (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/Roger2561/media/Crack%20E-Classic%201400.jpg.html) Roger
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The following is the response I received from Central Boiler after I submitted a picture of the crack earlier today.
"This crack will not effect the operation of furnace. I will make a note on the furnace history file that it was reported, it is not urgent to weld this".
I don't know. I don't like the idea of the crack being that close to the water jacket. I'll definitely keep an eye on it next heat season. Do you think it would be prudent to drill a small hole at the top of the crack to prevent it from opening further? Roger
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A small hole may help Roger, what do they say about drilling it?
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Wow, I wouldn't leave something like that, wish I was closer I would weld it for you.
Some of the welds in that picture don't look promising.
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Slimjim, I didn't ask about drilling a small hole. It never occurred to me until later in the evening. I'll send another message when I have time, perhaps sometime tomorrow. I think I'll go ahead and get an estimate anyway and at the same time have him/her look over the welds and include any touch ups in the estimate if they are needed. Roger
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Why don't you try to PM Big wood, he has refurbished a few of the CBs air channels I think?
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Great idea. Thanks.
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What the heck are you doing up so early anyways? I thought I was the early riser on here.
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Regardless of what day of the week it is, I'm usually out of bed around 3:30am. For some reason my internal clock wakes me at 3:30 so I get up and get the day started. But, I must admit I overslept this morning. I woke at 4:00am, the day is nearly over.
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Wow, I wouldn't leave something like that, wish I was closer I would weld it for you.
Some of the welds in that picture don't look promising.
My thoughts exactly, part of it looks more like an improper weld more than a crack as in the bead penetrated one piece of steel but not the other.
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Roger - I have a few cracks in my 2300's airbox as do other C.B. owners on other forums. Mine appeared in my 2nd year of use which was 3 years ago.
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Roger - I have a few cracks in my 2300's airbox as do other C.B. owners on other forums. Mine appeared in my 2nd year of use which was 3 years ago.
I'm curious, are they located along the weld bead or elsewhere? I hope to have time tomorrow to call a welder I know (we went to high school together) and see what he has to offer. Perhaps I can get him to fabricate a removable panel for me. Roger
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Hi Roger i sent you my pm gmail
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Well, I finally remembered to contact a welder to see what he could do for me regarding welding shut the open seam in the air channel. He was the only welder that does house calls within a 50 mile radius. The welder I had in mind does not do house calls anymore, he says the insurance is getting too expensive. After he looked it over he said that it shouldn't much of an issue to close it. He inspected the other welds too. He said there appears to be more that are ready to fail. I told him to touch up any welds he feels will be an issue. He comes sometime next week to weld it. Roger
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Good to hear that you got someone to weld it have some cold water handy he'll need a drink or 2 good luck
With the project
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Roger how did you make out welding that crack up in the cb??👍👍
What kind of metal are they using for the air passages??
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Roger how did you make out welding that crack up in the cb??👍👍
What kind of metal are they using for the air passages??
I hired a welder to do it for me. He did a great job. But, he informed me that he's not doing that type of welding anymore due to a bad experience with another customer. I guess the guy had an old unit and he never took care of it but insisted that the guy weld the cracks for him. He said every time he tried to weld, the material was so thin that it wouldn't hold and the customer is blaming him for making it worse. So, he's not welding OWB's anymore for anyone. Now I have to find another welder.
As for the air channel material, it looks like regular 'ol carbon steel, nothing fancy. Roger
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Roger how did you make out welding that crack up in the cb??👍👍
What kind of metal are they using for the air passages??
I hired a welder to do it for me. He did a great job. But, he informed me that he's not doing that type of welding anymore due to a bad experience with another customer. I guess the guy had an old unit and he never took care of it but insisted that the guy weld the cracks for him. He said every time he tried to weld, the material was so thin that it wouldn't hold and the customer is blaming him for making it worse. So, he's not welding OWB's anymore for anyone. Now I have to find another welder.
As for the air channel material, it looks like regular 'ol carbon steel, nothing fancy. Roger
I’m very careful who I do any farm repair work for, some people are just born to be ass aches and will do about anything to get something for nothing.
Hate to say it, but that welder is lucky he didn’t hear from the other guys lawyer demanding that the welder buys him a new boiler “for making it worse”.