Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => Portage & Main => Topic started by: Chumscustoms on February 04, 2016, 06:52:44 AM
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I have a cb 6048. No complaints except wood consumption.
I looked a a local p&m 3444 that guy had and I was impressed by design. And quality.
My question is, does anyone know of anyone who switched from a cb to a p&m
I heat a 2000 Sq ft house. 1 story, mediocre insulation which is being upgraded soon.
And a 650 Sq ft house 5 ft away from mine (yes 5) that is also mediocre insulation.
I use approx. 5 cord a month. And average 12 to 25 cord a year of anything from maple to good seasoned oak.
Input would be great .
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I switched from a 6048 to a p&m 34-44. I like it better. It takes less wood to get 12 burns.
The cb seemed like your trying to stack wood up^ when loading. The p&m, you are dropping the wood down onto the pile. Cb was better for rolling in huge rounds because the door is so big. My buddy down the road has a 6048. Now, if I have to load his stove, I think holy sh#*, that thing holds a lot of wood.
I would say the one downside is the cb has more leeway for running out of wood because of the high water capacity.
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if you are going to upgrade your insulation, will you need that big of a boiler?
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Where do you live? You may not need that big of a boiler. I would consider weather the houses have full basements, quality of windows, how many people between the two houses for hot water, ect. I have replaced more than a few 6048's with 3444's. Most of my customers report 30% to 40% wood savings using the same moisture content wood with the same heating load. If the boiler is oversized you will not realize as big of a savings. The bigger the heating load the more you will save.
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That sounds like an awful lot of wood for the space you are heating!
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Hopefully the guys will chime in over here with some perspective too. If you could post your readings that you got for temps as well as your set up some new people can look at that.
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Ya, that's a mountain of wood for the square footage your heating. Im in Minnesota and heated a 2000 SF home and kept a 30x48 garage at 45-50 degrees on 8 to10 cord with a central boiler 5648, which is basicly the same stove.
The added insulation will definitely help, but I'd also check the temps on your underground lines to make sure your not loosing heat to the ground. 25 cord of oak is a lot of BTU's
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That's crazy! I probably haven't burned 25 cords since I firerd the 6048 like 6 years ago. I only burn 8 to ten split pices a day and if its rel cold I put a round on top for a little insurance!
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Is that 12-25 face cords or full cords a year? If it's full cords, that's way to much to be burning for that amount of square feet.
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Sounds like a lot of wood to me too. I had a 6048 for 8 years and went through roughly 10-12 cord per year, and that was Sumer hot water also. I heat about 3400 sf. I did notice that if you stacked it from front to back you would just waste it as it went straight up the stack. I learned this when I had a friend load it while I was on vacation, came back and wondered where all my wood had gone! I went to the P+M 250 and usage dropped about 40 percent.
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I hardly think its the boiler.........check ur delta temps. Something else in ur set up is not right.....not way u should b using that much wood.
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Sounds like a lot of wood to me too. I had a 6048 for 8 years and went through roughly 10-12 cord per year, and that was Sumer hot water also. I heat about 3400 sf. I did notice that if you stacked it from front to back you would just waste it as it went straight up the stack. I learned this when I had a friend load it while I was on vacation, came back and wondered where all my wood had gone! I went to the P+M 250 and usage dropped about 40 percent.
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For the heat load stated, and even if both homes heated dht, the Bl2840 should be plenty sufficient. I'm heating 2000 sq ft home with poor insulation and 30x40 shop with decent insulation but poor doors. Both are kept at 20 - 25 deg C. My 2840 would probably go 24 hours in mild weather and a full load.
You are better off making the stove work, then letting it idle.
Rick