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Title: PTO driven splitter?
Post by: Corngrinder on May 03, 2016, 08:59:21 PM
Can anyone recommend a good PTO driven log splitter?  I'd like to be able to do up to 20-24" length logs with around 22-27 tons of pressure.  I'd be getting this as an alternative to a stand-along splitter... so it'd need to be cheaper or at least the same price as a comparable stand-alone in order for it to be a worthwhile purchase.

Currently, I split it all by hand with the Fiskars X-27, so it'd be hard to put that down for a cheap splitter; I need something that is more time effective.

PTO is driving by a Kubota L2501 if that helps for the selection process.
Title: Re: PTO driven splitter?
Post by: mlappin on May 03, 2016, 11:03:25 PM
Are you actually referring to a cone style splitter that runs off your PTO at an idle, or a i beam type that runs the hydraulic pump off the PTO?

I’m not familiar with Kubota’s at all, doesn’t it have hydraulic outlets?

My cousin did have a three point kelly log splitter that you locked the hydraulic lever on the tractor then used the valve on the splitter to control the ram.

You could buy a three point splitter, then get a PTO pump from Burdens Surplus Center if your Kubota doesn’t have hydraulic remotes.

When I hear PTO splitter I automatically think of one of these:

https://jet.com/product/detail/a5bcd55a0f4d41c69df156434d5e6c53?jcmp=pla:ggl:gen_hardware_a1:tools_log_splitters_a1_other:na:na:na:na:na:2&code=PLA15&ds_c=gen_hardware_a1&ds_cid&ds_ag=tools_log_splitters_a1_other&product_id=a5bcd55a0f4d41c69df156434d5e6c53&product_partition_id=163685197740&gclid=CLjGwYzSv8wCFVGAaQodnaUL8g&gclsrc=aw.ds
Title: Re: PTO driven splitter?
Post by: Cabo on May 04, 2016, 01:50:20 PM
I have a Timberwolf TW-3 or TW-3HD (can't remember).  The unit is awesome.  Splits about 15 cord a year and have had it for 4-5 years.  It attaches to the PTO easily and has been trouble free.  The best part of it is being able to adjust the height of the unit with the 3-point hitch.  You can set it so you aren't bent over and if you have a big piece you can drop it to the ground and roll the piece on.  They do make an optional log lift but I didn't get it.
Title: Re: PTO driven splitter?
Post by: Corngrinder on May 04, 2016, 08:54:50 PM
Thanks - definitely looking for one similar to what Cabo posted.  Are they reasonably priced? I can get a standard gas powered 22 ton splitter at the local store for around $800.  I'm really hoping to find a similarly priced PTO driven one (with they hydraulic level control on the splitter unit).

Note: PTO is 19 HP @ 540 RPM.
Title: Re: PTO driven splitter?
Post by: mlappin on May 04, 2016, 09:12:28 PM
If you have 19hp at your stub then your looking at a TW-3, the heavier one requires a minimum of 30hp.

http://www.timberwolfcorp.com/tw-3-log-splitter/

From what I’ve been able to find, since Timberwolf is more of a professional brand, your gonna pay more than twice the $800 you mentioned for a TW-3.

I could be wrong though, I could actually find a price from aTimberwolf dealer, but prices mentioned on other forums for what people were quoted. Maybe watch Craigslist?
Title: Re: PTO driven splitter?
Post by: BIG AL on May 05, 2016, 07:21:23 AM
I built a 3 pt log splitter that I have been using for several years. Originally I ran it off the tractors remote hyd ports. I really like being able to set the height exactly where I want it and be able to move it anywhere I want to use it easily. A couple years ago I decided that I couldn't see running a 55 hp tractor to power what could run on 8 hp. So I put a motor , pump , and hyd tank on the splitter and made it self powered. Now it has the capabilities of the 3 pt but uses a lot less fuel. Running the tractor at a constant speed for many hours at a time without much load on the engine creates extra wear on the tractor as well. But with that said if I had a failure with the engine or pump I could move a couple hoses and go back to using the tractor remotes. I've never tried any of the new splitters that do vertical and horizontal use , but I can say having split wood since I was a kid with my dad , the 3 pt splitter I have now has been the most versitile design I have used yet.
Title: Re: PTO driven splitter?
Post by: Cabo on May 05, 2016, 03:07:17 PM
I think you're going to be into around 2K or so for the TW-3.  As I recall thats what it was then and we know what prices have done.  I can say that it's a well built,rugged unit and I've never had to do anything to it,put it on, let the oil circulate to warm(when cold) and off we go.  I've always felt that it's worth it to pay more for quality and have something when you want /need it then to skimp and end up with a POS that you spend time wrenching on.  Just my opinion.
Title: Re: PTO driven splitter?
Post by: fireboss on May 05, 2016, 05:56:23 PM
I just got a TM splitter for my skid steer! It is built heavy duty ! Splits any thing I put threw it at idle, I payed 2,100 deliverd to my door! Well worth it!
Title: Re: PTO driven splitter?
Post by: Cabo on May 06, 2016, 05:18:18 PM
Was at a logging show today and got current pricing on Timber Wolf.  TW-3 $2495       TW-3HD $3495 w/ 4-way wedge
Title: Re: PTO driven splitter?
Post by: Corngrinder on May 10, 2016, 01:52:10 AM
After much consideration... of which I've been back and forth a few times.  I think I'm going to opt for a standard log splitter.  The main reasoning is that I value the tractor much higher, and the added hours put on it by splitting wood is not worth the small amount of space and convenience I would save by having a stand-alone unit. I reckon I can replace a broken or worn splitter much cheaper than I can a tractor. :-\

Thanks for all the input
Title: Re: PTO driven splitter?
Post by: juddspaintballs on June 05, 2016, 08:18:03 PM
you can also use the tractor to place wood on the splitter...