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Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => Hardy => Topic started by: m-44 on March 20, 2011, 08:21:20 PM

Title: stuck damper door
Post by: m-44 on March 20, 2011, 08:21:20 PM
having trouble with my h2. the damper door gets stuck closed, causes the Solenoid to burn out.
any Suggestions??????? thanks
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: RSI on March 20, 2011, 09:23:14 PM
Can you post a picture of it? I have never seen a Hardy stove but assume the solenoid setup is similar to others.
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: m-44 on March 21, 2011, 05:19:27 PM
sorry , dont have digital camera handy. pipe from  under grates comes over to small fan, has a lid,"damper door" over the other side so air cant get in-in off mode. when aquastat calls for heat dormeyer brand solenoid pulls the lid open and turns the fan on to stoke the fire.
    smoke must be traveling through the fan blades , and getting goo , Creosote, on the gasket  during off cycle.
    wondering if i need a stronger or better solenoid INSTEAD of the dormeyer 2005-m-1??????
     or is there a better answer?
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: RSI on March 21, 2011, 05:38:37 PM
Is the door actually sticking down? What is the gasket made of?
That solenoid should be ok. How much travel does it have to fully seat? If you can make it as short as possible it will pull a lot better. The farther away it is the weaker it gets. If it doesn't pull in it will burn up the coil pretty fast.
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: m-44 on March 22, 2011, 05:44:22 PM
has a cork gasket- yeah it sticks shut, kind of hard to open by hand.
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: RSI on March 23, 2011, 10:39:40 PM
I found a pretty good sized solenoid at the office today. If you want to give it a try you can have it for $20
If you want to see a pic of it next to one like you have, let me know.
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: RSI on March 24, 2011, 11:45:01 AM
Here is a pic of it next to a a Dormeyer 2005-m-1.  :thumbup:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_TU5hP3dxwbg/TYuBTnJwMaI/AAAAAAAAADI/Hh6Ops87vw4/s1024/20110324122032.jpg)
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: Hank on March 25, 2011, 02:11:13 PM
I have heard of people placing some oil on the gasket.. Not sure if that will work... also what if you placed a small nail or something in between the damper door and the gasket to help not allow the door to seal
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: m-44 on March 28, 2011, 06:19:50 PM
already bought another selenoid , but will go bigger if this one dies.
  i 'll  try oiling the gasket.
  i just hope the smoke that must be flowing back though the blower doesnt hurt it.
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: RSI on March 28, 2011, 06:25:25 PM
If you can adjust it down any to shorten the stroke I think it would help a lot. I have no idea if the oil would work but if it gets too hot it might get sticky.
I wonder why smoke is getting there anyway. Is the chimney clear? I would think if anything the smoke would want to go away from it if it is the lowest point.
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: dumbodog00 on May 02, 2011, 07:25:49 PM
I am on my third fan in 5 years from the smoke coming back into the fan.  The fan blades get creosote build up and eventually come off.  I don't know what I am doing wrong because I keep the ashes cleaned out and the wood is seasoned fairly well. 
As far as the door sticking, I have not had that happen so I can't help you there.  Maybe make sure the chain is not too long and is almost taught when the door is closed.  Make sure the door/flapper closes or you can overheat and boil the water from the air getting in.
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: m-44 on February 08, 2012, 04:29:32 PM
little update- been giving the cork gasket a shot of wd40 each week this season , so far so good.
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: AirForcePOL on February 15, 2012, 01:03:44 PM
I'll have to remember that if mine ever gives me any problems.  So far, so good though.
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: slosh250 on February 15, 2012, 05:12:15 PM
mines not even hooked up sitting in my shop as i'm fixing it back up and the lift motor makes a hell of a slam open and drops closed hard. maybe that part on my H2 is going bad, it's loud almost like a hammer hitting a 16penny nail
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: Bull on February 16, 2012, 04:09:59 AM
That is normal Slosh, they all do that and it still makes me jump even tho I know it is going to happen. LOL
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: AirForcePOL on February 16, 2012, 07:36:36 AM
That is normal Slosh, they all do that and it still makes me jump even tho I know it is going to happen. LOL

Me too! Gets me every time!
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: slosh250 on February 16, 2012, 02:35:59 PM
Oh ok then guess it just seemed loud to me, i'll be honest it scared the crap out of me the 1st time. as long as thats normal then i guess mine is good to go
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: d conover on March 09, 2012, 07:31:56 AM
That is normal Slosh, they all do that and it still makes me jump even tho I know it is going to happen. LOL

Me too! Gets me every time!

We have a cairn terrier "Maggie" that can hear that damper door open a 1/4 mile away. She goes nuts barking her head off everytime.  She is 7 and must have heard it a thousand times.  Still gets her excited.
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: BIGDIESEL20S on March 12, 2012, 07:04:20 AM
Slosh, a buddy of mine and myself were working on mine stove making the last few connections. I turned the breaker on to the stove ,grabed the plug in and said now when I plug this in she should finally come to life. I pluged the first plug in she started to fill with water so we was happy danceing around so I grab the other plug and plug it in, I got it half way in the plug and that stuped solnoid popped,the door slammed open and we took off running and screaming across the feild. Scared the CRAP out of both of us, and I told him a half hour earlyer that it would do that.
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: Bull on March 12, 2012, 05:19:48 PM
LOL @ Big
Title: Re: stuck damper door
Post by: slosh250 on March 12, 2012, 08:33:00 PM
I'm sure i;ll do the same thing when i get mine installed. even though i know it does it