Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
All-Purpose OWF Discussions => Fire Wood => Topic started by: coolidge on March 03, 2017, 06:32:05 PM
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Checked out my supply today, gotta say I am quite surprised. Started the burning year with 29 full cords and only 15 left and the season is not over. :bash:
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How many times per day do you load your stove?
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Checked out my supply today, gotta say I am quite surprised. Started the burning year with 29 full cords and only 15 left and the season is not over. :bash:
Ouch, I think I ran that much thru the G400 last year. You guys have had some really frigid weather up that way though, our coldest all winter was -13.
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I'm pretty busy for the next couple of weeks but when I get back I would like to take a close look at your stove, I know you said earlier that you seemed to be burning a lot of wood , something isn't right.
Do you have a good stack temp gauge you could slide into the stack just above the breach?
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Seems like a lot of wood to me! I burned 9 cord this winter in Wisconsin
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It is hard to say if it is a lot of wood without knowing what is being heated.
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I lit our boiler about mid October and I can say we have burned 5 cord as of today. I have 3+ left so I would say going into March we should be good. I would love to see what our g-200 could do if our house had insulation or decent windows.
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Approximately 3800 sq ft very well insulated farmhouse. 1100 sqft shop well insulated, with radiant.
40 ft run too shop, 80 ft run too house, Logstor too both.
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Approximately 3800 sq ft very well insulated farmhouse. 1100 sqft shop well insulated, with radiant.
40 ft run too shop, 80 ft run too house, Logstor too both.
Huh, if it was anything but Logstor I’d be saying check for heat loss in your underground lines…..
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I am going to core a hole in my garage slab this week hopefully to see if Insulation board is wet. Hopefully missing any tubing.
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I'm heating 2800 sqft 220 year old house with decent insulation. Just cleared 6 cords heating since October 22. 14 cords is pretty nutty with that heat load. I'm not sure if it's even possible to water log xps insulation. I think I would put a hour meter on each of your systems and see where your heat is going. The logstor isn't stealing it. X2 on the stack temp measurement too to see if your blowing the heat out the stack.
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I think I am at around 5-6 cords (~75% red oak, 25% boxelder) since the beginning of December. before that I burned a bundle of slabs and other unstackable wood that I had built up. I really didn't notice any difference in wood usage when I switched from the G200 to the G100.
I still have home made lines from about 14 years ago which I am not sure how good they are. I used 1" Kitec put 3/8" pipe insulation on it and then wrapped with one layer of 3/8" bubble foil insulation. Then put in 3" drain tile and wrapped the outside with sheet plastic and taped the seam. They run about 150'
The supply and return pipes are in separate drain tiles.
I am thinking about putting in PerformaFlex Ultra or Rehau Insulpex pipe this year but would have to move the boiler because it would be too hard to run in the existing pipe path.
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Stack temp is running 275 to 300.
House and garage both need And have HRV,s
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I think I'm at about 7 cords mixed hardwood in my G100. A smidge more than last year. Colder I think.
But I'm heating way more than a G1 should handle. Runs it wide open a lot.
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Stack temp is running 275 to 300.
House and garage both need And have HRV,s
Doesn’t sound like its in the stove then, can you check supply and return temps on each run to at least narrow down whats pulling that much load?
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I think I've burned 4 1/2 approaching 5 cord this year. It's been quite mild this winter in the north east so wood usage is down.
I've experimenting for the past couple of years to see if I notice any difference in wood usage. For the first 4 years everything was cut at 24" long and split to 6 to 8 inch diameter. Well, this year I'm finally using the wood that I cut at 20" and split to 4 to 6 inches diameter. I appears that the wood usage is down. Perhaps it's due to the wood being a bit drier, thus the time it takes to rekindle from an idle is much quicker, and reaction chamber temps rebound much quicker too. What do you guys think? Roger
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I think I found the issue, I turned shop thermostat down to 50 last night and used my torpedo heater to keep around 60, threw in my usual amount for a 3 degree night,which is full, and still have most of that left after 10 hours.
Now to figure out what is going on in shop.
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Thermal break to the frost walls?
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I think I found the issue, I turned shop thermostat down to 50 last night and used my torpedo heater to keep around 60, threw in my usual amount for a 3 degree night,which is full, and still have most of that left after 10 hours.
Now to figure out what is going on in shop.
What kind of insulation did you use under and around the slab? I’m pretty sure most foam boards anymore are all closed cell, but I’ve been wrong before.
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I am close to 5 cord this year I think. Cut logs to 22" and split to small pieces but I am also burning end cuts I got for $300 a truck load delivered, truck holds 4 cord. Not sure what that left me when I split it up due to odd size wood pieces being chucked into a pile. This is up from last year but the heat was set higher as was the hot water untill my wife tells me it was to warm. I almost done with the pile in the picture.
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I lost my picture of the final wood pile split but here is a beter picture of the wood dropped off
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2" foam board under slab and edges
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I lost my picture of the final wood pile split but here is a beter picture of the wood dropped off
Yep, I have a 16 foot straight truck with contractors sides, one of the properties we rent they had almost 150 trees logged out, loggers left the butt pieces and what not, I probably have at least 3 loads of stuff to bring home. I’ll take the tracked skid steer and the grapple to load it all then grab the inverted splitter with the skiddie.
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That wood rack was full last Friday.
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Huh, does your rack hold roughly half a cord? I placed mine last Tuesday, length and height is a little over 4’ to make up for the 22” long pieces, I’ve already loaded todays wood into the 200.
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t167/Marty_Lappin/IMG_1903_zps6ootutti.jpg)
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Yup. 22" wood also.
I hooked up my modine heater and shut the radiant down, of course we are going back into the 50's this week.
Is that your 400 back there with the viewing glass?
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Yep, pretty sure I won’t be doing anymore view ports, adds to the creosote problem during excessive idling, like when it’s 50-60 or even warmer. Always draws a little air in, just like having a leaky door seal or not having the damper shut all the way.
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There isn't a way to seal that up?
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There isn't a way to seal that up?
If you seal it up then after a very short time you can’t see thru it, it also holds ash in the tube. You need an air wash of some kind in a view port to keep the glass clean and cooled somewhat.
Since the G series uses a power draft and they build quite a bit of vacuum, it will actually pull the door shut on the G400 if you just crack it I made a prototype that did shut off when it idled and only allowed air in when it was running, glass would be black by the next morning from the combustion gasses present even during a idle.
Basically used some very light springs to push the glass against the outer plate, I had ports milled into the thicker piece that held the springs, when the stove started it would pull the glass away from the outer cover which allowed air to flow around the edge of the glass. It did work as creosote was decreased, but the daily cleaning of the glass wasn’t worth it.
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Checked out my supply today, gotta say I am quite surprised. Started the burning year with 29 full cords and only 15 left and the season is not over. :bash:
14 bush cords ???so far,, in the south??
Do you have an automatic loader,, or some teenager,, to help you keep the wood in it???(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e212/kommandokenny/GreenGuy_1.gif)
I know your heating lots ,, I hope the guys can figure it out for ya
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Using much less wood without the radiant on, supposed to get colder this weekend again, will see how it goes.
Do all the firewood by myself, wife and kids no help. 4 yr old now that boy lives for the woods.
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Up and coming! I hope someday my boy wants to be in the woods like I did when I was younger, still do today. I'll have to start him young.
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Bout 2 tons of pellets and 4 tons of corn. :thumbup:
Neal
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Using much less wood without the radiant on, supposed to get colder this weekend again, will see how it goes.
Do all the firewood by myself, wife and kids no help. 4 yr old now that boy lives for the woods.
By yourself, no help,, gotta s*&^k
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We're using bout the same as last year 5 bush cord one to go be a little over 6 by May.
Shoulders are shot from overdoing it with the ATV TRACKS.
Glad wife kicks in !!feel bad for you guys doing it alone.
Got a good wife,, ex postal worker,, so she's,, "no stranger to a little hard work"
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Too cold for me out........
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Kids weren't much help either,, so we didn't tell them where we moved to.