Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
All-Purpose OWF Discussions => Equipment => Topic started by: rosewood on April 07, 2011, 07:32:00 PM
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anyone ever use a cone style splitter? the ones the rednecks use on the rear end of their pickups :bag:I would like to buy the cone screw and adapt it use on skidsteer.
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I know a guy that was running one and got his pants hung on it and ended up having to get his leg cut off from the knee down.
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I am going to get one as soon as I find the right size hydraulic motor. I am going to try mounting it on the front of my Kubota RTV. Even if it doesn't work real well it will still be worth it because I bust up the larger pieces of wood instead of having to lift them.
If it doesn't work out on the RTV then I will re-do it for the skid steer.
As long as I am sitting on the seat holding a lever it should be a lot safer than a regular type splitter.
I plan on getting a wheel motor and a cone that bolts to a wheel hub. Then all I need to do is build a small frame that connects to the plow mounts.
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How about this one.... http://www.thestickler.com/articlee333.html?id=5833 (http://www.thestickler.com/articlee333.html?id=5833)
Don't even know what to think/say about it, other than you can drive your splitter to/from the woods, then out to dinner and a movie later in the evening!
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How about this one.... http://www.thestickler.com/articlee333.html?id=5833 (http://www.thestickler.com/articlee333.html?id=5833)
Don't even know what to think/say about it, other than you can drive your splitter to/from the woods, then out to dinner and a movie later in the evening!
Seen a utube video with that type of spitter on a bobcat..Didnt seem very efficient to me..Funny seeing it hooked up to a truck..I think I'll stick the splitter I got..Way cheaper to run lol
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I wouldn't have anything to do with one that required being by it while it is running.
kegelspalter hydrospalter wood splitter hydraulic log splitter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpztFEk44Vo#)
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The one on the truck, if it got a hold of you you couldn't stop it before it hurt you. Looks to dangerous. The other one looks like it would splinter the wood to bad.
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I rented one once... here's the thread with my review:
http://outdoorwoodfurnaceinfo.com/forum/index.php?topic=184.msg1342#msg1342 (http://outdoorwoodfurnaceinfo.com/forum/index.php?topic=184.msg1342#msg1342)
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not to worried about the danger issue..i will be sitting in machine,RSI i plan on useing a 32 to 1 ratio gear box with hydraulic motor driving that. only need to split the real big stuff so speed isn't a factor. does any one own one? makes sense to by one with replaceable tip but not sure if one is better then the other.
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What speed is the hydraulic motor you will be using? You need at least a couple hundred RPM. This one appears to be about 60 RPM and nearly worthless. Stickler Log Splitter on Dingo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvFWrP1COLU#)
Apparently the yellow stickler ones are hollow. They are cheaper which was making be lean that way and they are made to bolt on a wheel hub which would make it a perfect combination with a wheel motor.
Also, Stickler was the only company that emailed me back when I asked about what RPM and power was needed. They did say that if you run it too fast it will get hot and cause the welds to fail. That sounds kind of odd. Can't get that hot I wouldn't think.
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rsi, i have afew different old motors...haven't looked up any specs on anything yet. some videos i've seen has steam coming off cone as it goes through wet wood, bet it does get pretty hot!
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I just found the email from Stickler.
The Stickler requires about 150-200 RPM to be effective
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rosewood, i have an auger for my bobcat and was going to try to use it and jerry rig onto the end of it, if you figure it out let me no, they look sweet and sitting and spliting does seem nice. i priced one and they want close to 4000 and that wont fly in my house.
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rosewood, i have an auger for my bobcat and was going to try to use it and jerry rig onto the end of it, if you figure it out let me no, they look sweet and sitting and spliting does seem nice. i priced one and they want close to 4000 and that wont fly in my house.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Screw-Type-Log-Splitter-Powered-Skid-Steer-Auger-/220738368001?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3365083201 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Screw-Type-Log-Splitter-Powered-Skid-Steer-Auger-/220738368001?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3365083201)
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I got a cone splitter for sale. It is a Bark Buster. All it needs is a pto shaft. I decided to persue a hydraulic 4 way log splitter with a log lift.
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How much do you want for it?
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$100 will take it.
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$100 will take it.
PM sent
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Haven't checked site in a while,but Im still on the cone kick! Got a friend who might be able to get me a hydraulic auger set up. So been holding off on buying cone till I get that. Also recently added mini excavator to toy box ,has extra plummed hyd and quick coupler so will be a easy build. With temps over a 100 yesterday who wants to think about wood.
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I put one together with a stickler cone and hydraulic wheel motor. I am disappointing with the way it works. Luckily I made it for the skid steer and not for the RTV.
The hydraulic motor should be putting out about 32 hp and it gets stuck fairly easily. I was only able to split short wood with it too or it gets stuck. I have an oak log that is maybe 36" in diameter and probably only 4' long. It couldn't even peel a small chunk off the side without getting stuck.
It is possible that the hydraulic motor is warn out and not putting out that much HP any more but the wheel adapter for it is way too weak. I had to be really careful to not completely destroy it and only split a small pile of wood. I bent it several times and had a good 3"+ wobble in it.
I am going to have to almost completely redo it with the cone from Guru if I want it to split much wood.
Not sure yet if it will be worth the work or just start making a regular splitter.
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Rsi, do you have any type of gearbox in between hyd motor and cone . If not ,you most likely won't ever see peak hp of motor. You will have to gear it some how.
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I sized the motor to the speed I wanted. Isn't that pretty much the same difference as gearing it down?
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RSI ,what are you powering the motor with? Most skidsters with extra hydraulics are any where from 15 to 20 gpm.
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It is a Gehl Skid Steer. I believe it is about 17GPM and 2750 PSI.
I calculated the motor to be about 18 CU IN.
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i was reading on line and it said you cannot put the squealer on a bobcat auger attachment, they said the gear on the auger is not strong enough to turn it and it will stop, anybody here of this, if this is true i am back to square one.
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I have one that I run off tractor pto and love it for the big logs.
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i have seen those but i think my bobcat would be so much quicker but if it wont work i sure dont want to spend the money, does anyone know?
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Are you wanting to use it on a post hole digger? If so, what RPM does it run?
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no i would prefer to use my bobcat auger, i think it would be quicker than my tractor
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I believe the cone will fit the skid loader auger shaft too. It uses a standard size auger shaft doesn't it?. If so, I think a couple hundred bucks and you're in.
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yes, it will fit but is the auger gear strong enough to work, i read where a guy tried it and the spliter would stop because there was not enough tork. that is what i am worried about, if i was for sure it would not bog down and stop i would get it tomorrow.
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yes, it will fit but is the auger gear strong enough to work, i read where a guy tried it and the spliter would stop because there was not enough tork. that is what i am worried about, if i was for sure it would not bog down and stop i would get it tomorrow.
If it turns a ground auger and doesn't bog down enough to stop, I doubt a log is going to stop it either. Factory hyd. augers are pretty good torgue monsters. If home built-who knows? I guess- some specifics on the auger would be help-ful.
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I broke mine again today. The stickler mount is just way too flimsy. It was doing pretty good on short wood but long logs don't split very easy. I ran out of cut up wood (less than 3-4' long) and tried the long stuff again. I got one long one split but then kept trying a stubborn one.
(http://rsiboilers.com/stuff/stickler1.jpg)
(http://rsiboilers.com/stuff/stickler2.jpg)
(http://rsiboilers.com/stuff/stickler3.jpg)
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Does anyone have any ideas on how to make a new mounting plate and not have it wobble?
It has to be bolted on like in the picture so the plate can be bolted to the hub from inside. I think it could be flat though. I am not sure if the hub is steel or cast iron. If it is steel I will probably weld the adapter plate right on.
I am not going to buy a new one from Stickler. They are way too thin.
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Does anyone have any ideas on how to make a new mounting plate and not have it wobble?
It has to be bolted on like in the picture so the plate can be bolted to the hub from inside. I think it could be flat though. I am not sure if the hub is steel or cast iron. If it is steel I will probably weld the adapter plate right on.
I am not going to buy a new one from Stickler. They are way too thin.
I broke the mounting plate on my stickler within an hour after putting it on my post hole digger last year. Called them up and explained that it was built too thin. Sent it ( mounting plate) back and they sent a new, reinforced one, free of charge. I would think, a good thick flat piece of steel used as a backing plate on the underside would work.
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2 options..go to a machine shop with old one,and have them make i with heavier material. or if you can make it yourself,get a 1''shaft collet or what ever size dia hyd motor is. get 1/2""plate ,center collet on it and weld it on .install on motor ,turn on motor and spin, finding the center mark diameter of cone, trim excess steel ,clamp cone to plate and drill bolt pattern. save your money and will probably be stronger.
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I think the hydraulic motor is going bad. I can turn it in one direction. I am hoping that is why is was so weak.
I was using a wheel motor because it has better bearings than a regular hydraulic motor but I am not sure if it is strong enough.
I will probably find some good heavy bearing assembly to use and couple a regular hyd motor to it.