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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: FORKLIFT CAPABLE OWB
« on: March 08, 2014, 02:13:09 PM »
Thanks for the replies.
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I cannot extend the shed to the right and build over it because there is a shop to that side.
The Ultimizer has 4 large legs that it sits on so I did not think rolling with pipes would work.If I had a stable platform it would seem possible.
If you need to rip the roof off to get it in then you also have to rip the roof off to get it out.
Bob
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I cannot extend the shed to the right and build over it because there is a shop to that side.
The Ultimizer has 4 large legs that it sits on so I did not think rolling with pipes would work.If I had a stable platform it would seem possible.
If you need to rip the roof off to get it in then you also have to rip the roof off to get it out.
Bob
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / FORKLIFT CAPABLE OWB
« on: March 08, 2014, 11:36:04 AM »
I am wondering which if any OWB are capable of being lifted with a forklift. I need to slide my new boiler into an existing woodshed.
I have access to a Gehl RS 519 forklift that can extend into this shed and onto a pad I will pour in advance in the right hand section of the shed, where that lumber is piled up and the canoe.
I was looking at the P+M Ultimizer 34/44 but it can't be lifted from below, only from the hook on top. That would mean removing 5 sheets of steel, 8 rafters and cross braces in order to drop it in. I hate doing the same job twice.
I am going to extend this wood shed so I can have all the wood to the left of the boiler and always be under cover of the roof.
Thanks,
Bob
I have access to a Gehl RS 519 forklift that can extend into this shed and onto a pad I will pour in advance in the right hand section of the shed, where that lumber is piled up and the canoe.
I was looking at the P+M Ultimizer 34/44 but it can't be lifted from below, only from the hook on top. That would mean removing 5 sheets of steel, 8 rafters and cross braces in order to drop it in. I hate doing the same job twice.
I am going to extend this wood shed so I can have all the wood to the left of the boiler and always be under cover of the roof.
Thanks,
Bob
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Fire Wood / Re: log splitters
« on: February 25, 2014, 08:49:26 PM »
Even though it is Canadian, made by the Mennonites, the Wallenstien 510 horizontal work great for me, Honda 5 HP one pull start never any trouble. Built like a brick outhouse.
I put the removable 4 way wedge on it.
I went to a Wallenstien Wood Processor ( also Canadian ) and it is 36 ton dual stage, adjustable 4 way, it uses a Subaru 9 HP, a great machine for me.
Bob
I put the removable 4 way wedge on it.
I went to a Wallenstien Wood Processor ( also Canadian ) and it is 36 ton dual stage, adjustable 4 way, it uses a Subaru 9 HP, a great machine for me.
Bob
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Equipment / Re: Gas to oil ratios
« on: February 25, 2014, 08:37:57 PM »
I use Stihl oil but always run 40 to 1 ratio.
I have two Stilhs, 028 and 046.
Bob
I have two Stilhs, 028 and 046.
Bob
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Equipment / Re: SAWS Wich ONE
« on: February 25, 2014, 08:35:00 PM »
I have two Stihls, a smaller 028 bought mid 80's and an 046 about ten years old. I am very happy however I believe Husky is also an excellent saw. I agree choose the one that feels best and has good dealer support.
Bob
Bob
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Fuel oil
« on: February 24, 2014, 10:00:02 PM »They got ya by the $&@?! I talked to a guy last week that was going through $2000 a month to keep the place just from freezing up. Wood pellet shortage, propane shortage, and nobody has dry wood to sell. People are hurting for shure .
There was an oil crisis back in the eighties, prices skyrocketed and people up here scrambled to use wood stoves. People in the country used the term " firewood rustlers " to describe people that stole firewood. I can remember seeing pick ups creeping along the concession roads looking for a dead tree to cut down along the side of the roads. The poor guys probably didn't have the money to buy wood but needed heat.
I have always regarded my wood pile as security.
Anything can happen, anything can go wrong and you cannot count on immediate government assistance to rush to you in a crisis. I had friends in the city of Toronto without heat for 4 days this winter, no one came rushing to their door.
My family is my responsibility, and I don't count on anyone. I will always have wood ready and a way to burn it. With fire you have heat and a means to cook and melt snow for water if need be.
Once fuel prices have gone way up they never go as far back down. We just get used to it and the shock wears off. Let's see if propane ever does.
They think this way, once they customer has been forced to pay the high price X the will be very happy to pay the lower price Y, even though that is way more than they used to pay. Human nature 101.
Bob
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General Discussion / Re: feeding wood
« on: February 24, 2014, 08:42:47 PM »
I have heated with wood using indoor stoves since 1981.
Have had 4 stoves going round the clock during the cold spells this winter.
Buying an OWB this spring. A 250 or a BL34/44 most likely. I intend to heat two hot water tanks and a pool as well.
Even a stubborn guy like me knows when it's time to change.
Bob
Have had 4 stoves going round the clock during the cold spells this winter.
Buying an OWB this spring. A 250 or a BL34/44 most likely. I intend to heat two hot water tanks and a pool as well.
Even a stubborn guy like me knows when it's time to change.
Bob
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Why didn't I just get geothermal
« on: February 21, 2014, 10:39:35 PM »
The farm across from me has geo thermal to heat his old farm house and shop floor. I asked him this winter how it was when we had these really cold days and he said usually it is alright but when it can't keep up to the heat demand an electric coil on top of the furnace comes on as a boost.
Sounds very efficient to me.
Anything that needs government grants to sell it tells me it can't stand on it's own two feet.
Bob
Sounds very efficient to me.
Anything that needs government grants to sell it tells me it can't stand on it's own two feet.
Bob
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Portage & Main / Re: Big decision, big project but no dealer to help.
« on: February 20, 2014, 08:03:08 PM »How do you like you're Wallenstein? Which model? The 800 series looks a lot like a Wood Eze processor my uncle has except his runs off a tractor with a PTO pump, you're really making firewood when you can make a 65 hp diesel tractor blow smoke.
I have a model 820, the same as the newer ones but it has the smaller 9 hp engine, the 14 hp units are the same but faster cycling. This machine works very well for my needs, it will pull a long log up to cutting position at standing height, I cut it with the saw and it rolls into the splitter, 35 ton two stage I believe. I can cut the next piece while it splits the first. The pieces are pushed along a chute which dumps them into my loader, then straight to the wood shed. They do make a pto version but then I would need to load the loader manually.
Bob
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Portage & Main / Re: Big decision, big project but no dealer to help.
« on: February 19, 2014, 09:43:17 PM »
Hi Smeegs,
That is about the same amount of heating requirements I would have and I don't think it is as cold here as up north.
Thank you for that information it is important to me.
Bob
That is about the same amount of heating requirements I would have and I don't think it is as cold here as up north.
Thank you for that information it is important to me.
Bob
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Portage & Main / Re: Big decision, big project but no dealer to help.
« on: February 19, 2014, 09:29:34 PM »
Thank you jefito, I agree the Ultimizer does have the heating capacity for anything I have to heat.
I appreciate hearing your comments about the smoke. I have heated with wood stoves since 1980, and handled quite a bit of wood but this winter, with these real cold spells we have had ( and being 62 next month ) I crossed the line. Too much work and too much time and not enough warmth.
Bob
I appreciate hearing your comments about the smoke. I have heated with wood stoves since 1980, and handled quite a bit of wood but this winter, with these real cold spells we have had ( and being 62 next month ) I crossed the line. Too much work and too much time and not enough warmth.
Bob
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Portage & Main / Re: Big decision, big project but no dealer to help.
« on: February 19, 2014, 06:13:15 PM »
Thank you for your imput, having the opportunity to communicate with people that have experience like this is invaluable. I don't have any central air, when those heat spells come each year we use window a/c units and wear wet tee shirts.
I found that with the cold this winter I could not keep my home warm enough for my family. Feeding 4 stoves 24/7 takes a lot of time and effort.
I will contact you Slimjim and we can take it from there.
My attraction to the 250 was the super clean exhaust as compared to a non gasser, however reading a post yesterday by jefito says the smoke is there primarily on initial start up. Can anyone else avise on how the Ultimizer smokes?
My wood is Maple, Ash, Beech, some birch and oak. Currently all split at 18 inches but my Wallenstien processor can do 24 inches and stored under cover.
My ground is all dry sand, some dampness occuring around 3 feet near the shop in spring.
Thanks for the imput marty, I gather it is better to have surplus capacity and you can adjust the wood to match the needs.
Slimjim, I thought the shaker grates were for coal use, can you explain their value to me if I don't use coal, is it the ability to filter the ash from the coals?
Bob
I found that with the cold this winter I could not keep my home warm enough for my family. Feeding 4 stoves 24/7 takes a lot of time and effort.
I will contact you Slimjim and we can take it from there.
My attraction to the 250 was the super clean exhaust as compared to a non gasser, however reading a post yesterday by jefito says the smoke is there primarily on initial start up. Can anyone else avise on how the Ultimizer smokes?
My wood is Maple, Ash, Beech, some birch and oak. Currently all split at 18 inches but my Wallenstien processor can do 24 inches and stored under cover.
My ground is all dry sand, some dampness occuring around 3 feet near the shop in spring.
Thanks for the imput marty, I gather it is better to have surplus capacity and you can adjust the wood to match the needs.
Slimjim, I thought the shaker grates were for coal use, can you explain their value to me if I don't use coal, is it the ability to filter the ash from the coals?
Bob
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Portage & Main / Re: Big decision, big project but no dealer to help.
« on: February 18, 2014, 10:01:26 PM »
Wow, I guess it would help if I said I live one hour north of Toronto, in Southern Ontario.
Bob
Bob
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Portage & Main / Big decision, big project but no dealer to help.
« on: February 18, 2014, 09:57:23 PM »
I have been reading quite a bit here lately and have been impressed with the support readily offered by the members.
I heat a 4000 sq ft house with 3 wood stoves and a 650 sq ft shop with another wood stove, this has gone on for far too long. I process my own wood and expect to use 12 bush cords this year.
Wood is stored in a 39 x 10 foot wood shed, steel roof and no walls.
As soon as possible I intend to install a OWB to deal with the above but also heat 2 hot water tanks and a small 500 sq ft aquarium room to 85 degrees year round and a 30,000 gallon inground pool in summer. ( wife won't stick a toe in unless it is 86 degrees.)
My research points me to the 250 or the 34/44. Rory at P+M says either will do but the 34/44 would be more forgiving.
However there is no dealer nearby to assist me. I do not have any duct work as half of my house is log, the other board and batten and very well insulated. I would want to heat via radiators, cast iron and some baseboard types. Not forced air.
I have no idea how to layout a piping system, in the proper zones, with proper pump sizing in order to operate efficiently and not donate all of my money to Ontario Hydro's pension fund.
Does anyone know of a company around here that can consult on this layout? The other two competitors offered to come here and " show you how to do it."
I designed and built the house and did most of the plumbing and electrical so I can complete this work if I was shown what to do it, and I have no problem paying for good advice.
Thanks,
Bob
I heat a 4000 sq ft house with 3 wood stoves and a 650 sq ft shop with another wood stove, this has gone on for far too long. I process my own wood and expect to use 12 bush cords this year.
Wood is stored in a 39 x 10 foot wood shed, steel roof and no walls.
As soon as possible I intend to install a OWB to deal with the above but also heat 2 hot water tanks and a small 500 sq ft aquarium room to 85 degrees year round and a 30,000 gallon inground pool in summer. ( wife won't stick a toe in unless it is 86 degrees.)
My research points me to the 250 or the 34/44. Rory at P+M says either will do but the 34/44 would be more forgiving.
However there is no dealer nearby to assist me. I do not have any duct work as half of my house is log, the other board and batten and very well insulated. I would want to heat via radiators, cast iron and some baseboard types. Not forced air.
I have no idea how to layout a piping system, in the proper zones, with proper pump sizing in order to operate efficiently and not donate all of my money to Ontario Hydro's pension fund.
Does anyone know of a company around here that can consult on this layout? The other two competitors offered to come here and " show you how to do it."
I designed and built the house and did most of the plumbing and electrical so I can complete this work if I was shown what to do it, and I have no problem paying for good advice.
Thanks,
Bob