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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: New here. Looking for the smallest outdoor boiler made

« on: April 21, 2012, 12:37:04 PM »

The Empyre Elite indoor is a 120,000 btu boiler 90% eff or for a couple $100 more you can go with the XT100 the outdoor version of the Elite indoor .

Those look really nice but out of my price range.

I have a heat pump now.  A high electric bill for me in the winter is $400.  Closer to $300 most of the time.

A spring / fall bill without much heat or cooling is about $100.

I have no gas or oil bills.  Only electric.

If I converted over to a boiler to heat the whole house I'd end up with at least $8,000 in it minimum.  Probably more like $10,000.  I would then have to cut and handle the wood too.

If I could save $200, 6 months out of the year, maybe even 8 months out of the year that would be $1,600 or about 6 years of cutting wood to just break even.

Not worth it.

If I could get a very small system to supplement only for $3,000 or less I would consider it though just for the peace of mind I could run the blower and controls off my small generator and still have heat during a lengthy power outage all the while being able to heat the down stairs all winter reducing my electric bill and not using up all my wood or having to spend weeks cutting wood every year.

I'm beginning to think an indoor wood stove is my only option that meet my criteria.  Either that or build a boiler.

Thanks.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: New here. Looking for the smallest outdoor boiler made

« on: April 21, 2012, 03:15:51 AM »

Thanks for taking the time to respond thus far.

RE: the indoor boiler, I could do that as I have a detached garage close to the house so a new building wouldn't be necessary.  Any suggestions on one?

RE: Pellets, I don't want to buy fuel as I have about 10 acres of woods on my property with enough dead and/or down hardwood plus a lot of osage orange I can cut green and not feel bad about to last me a long time if I am not heating my entire house with wood.

My dad has an outdoor boiler and has had for years.  If cut as much wood as he does my supply of my own wood would be exhausted in a few years and I'd have to look elsewhere.

Back to the indoor boiler, I have come across one or two of those in my websearches but would appreciate some help if anyone here actually has one.

Thanks again,
bbaumer

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / New here. Looking for the smallest outdoor boiler made

« on: April 20, 2012, 05:11:24 PM »

Hi.  I've done a lot of poking around the net over several months looking for a very small outdoor boiler just to use as supplemental heat / emergency heat likely with fin tube radiators in a couple rooms in my home.

Buying an $8,000 and up boiler to heat my entire home with would never pay for itself not to mention I don't want to cut that much wood.

I have not been able to find such a boiler.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Before you say it, I am aware I could use a wood stove inside the house and already have a fireplace but but I don't like the mess in the house and having experience a flue fire as a kid I am shy about burning inside the house.

Thanks in advance for your input.

bbaumer