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Central Boiler / Re: Pics of my install as I go
« on: December 13, 2012, 05:15:45 AM »
I cant remember the exact sizes but be just be sure not restrict it too much. You want to re-direct it more than anything.
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Central Boiler / Re: Pics of my install as I go
« on: December 09, 2012, 07:20:38 AM »
dwneast77, my pump is supported good...no worries. I wanted the pump in the house for a couple reasons.
1) so I can monitor real easy by just walking down stairs 2) if I have to change it out(because if it fails itll be in the mid of winter) it will be easy and more conveniant 3) pumps put out ALOT of heat through the casing and also the motor gives off alot of heat and id rather have that escape to the house 4) it made it easier to insulate inside the door of the stove.
My pump is only about 50' from stove and is a couple feet lower in elevation so im not worried about cavitation. Everything is working great.
I have bypasses also on my furnace HX and my hot water HX also. If I was gonna run through the summer I would def bypass the furnace cause there is alot of heat radiating up through the plenum but when its chilly outside I love it. I like the constant heat it provides(keeps my blower from kickin on as much). I like the zone valve and only opening up when its needed but I would like to have one on my hot water HX(20 plate) instead.
I shouldnt see any snow melt where my pex is. Im using Thermopex and is a short run. I currently dont see any loss when its in the 20s. My complete loop is 120' and ALL well insulated. Fingers crossed
Oh i forgot to mention burn times...the other day I filled at 4am in morning and didnt get back to it till 9pm that night. Of course it was completely out of wood but water temp was only down to 160. set point is 170-185. Thought that was pretty good since it was chilly that day in the 30s with high winds. Thats also burning box elder lol I contibute part of it to maintaining a high ash bed. Ash puts out alot of heat!
1) so I can monitor real easy by just walking down stairs 2) if I have to change it out(because if it fails itll be in the mid of winter) it will be easy and more conveniant 3) pumps put out ALOT of heat through the casing and also the motor gives off alot of heat and id rather have that escape to the house 4) it made it easier to insulate inside the door of the stove.
My pump is only about 50' from stove and is a couple feet lower in elevation so im not worried about cavitation. Everything is working great.
I have bypasses also on my furnace HX and my hot water HX also. If I was gonna run through the summer I would def bypass the furnace cause there is alot of heat radiating up through the plenum but when its chilly outside I love it. I like the constant heat it provides(keeps my blower from kickin on as much). I like the zone valve and only opening up when its needed but I would like to have one on my hot water HX(20 plate) instead.
I shouldnt see any snow melt where my pex is. Im using Thermopex and is a short run. I currently dont see any loss when its in the 20s. My complete loop is 120' and ALL well insulated. Fingers crossed
Oh i forgot to mention burn times...the other day I filled at 4am in morning and didnt get back to it till 9pm that night. Of course it was completely out of wood but water temp was only down to 160. set point is 170-185. Thought that was pretty good since it was chilly that day in the 30s with high winds. Thats also burning box elder lol I contibute part of it to maintaining a high ash bed. Ash puts out alot of heat!
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Central Boiler / Re: Pics of my install as I go
« on: December 07, 2012, 12:58:01 PM »
I love it. I dont know why it doesnt come that way. I think it helps ALOT with better heat transfer, hotter firebox(which makes recovery faster), and keeps things contained. I was just gonna try it out and then remove it but i liked it so much that I kept it in. Im convinced it reduces wood consumption cause ive talked to alot of people with boilers that use WAY more wood with similar set-ups. After this winter im gonna make a heavy duty one thats braced but that I can still remove(for cleaning in summer). It has 2 drawbacks...1) you get more smoke out the door(which i dont care) 2) It makes the firebox a little shorter(but you dont want wood past the baffle anyway).
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Central Boiler / Re: Haven't been on the forum in a while
« on: November 04, 2012, 11:18:10 AM »
Splice a line from your damper to your doorbell lol I can hear mine slam open and shut from the house if tv is off. I want to add an LED light that comes on when cycling. Sometimes when its dark and the damper is open I can see a glow coming from the fire...pretty cool
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Central Boiler / Re: Fuel costs
« on: October 11, 2012, 07:16:17 AM »
Sounds good man. I was talkin with a friend about how I wont need anymore propane for this year and he mentioned the company might charge me a tank fee(i dont own my tank) if I dont buy so many gallons a year. I never thought about that. Im gonna check with them and see. He said he thought it was pretty expensive too. Talk about them stickin it to ya!
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Central Boiler / Re: CB5036 baffle in chimney
« on: October 09, 2012, 07:44:22 AM »
Seems to me since the 4030 has the resrictor down from 8" to 4" then the 5036 should have a 6" and the 6048 the standard 8".
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Plumbing / Re: Installed new Plate exchanger and have questions
« on: October 09, 2012, 07:37:32 AM »
The flows must be opposite of one another. Boiler in bottom and cold goin in top or vice versa
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Central Boiler / Re: Pics of my install as I go
« on: October 06, 2012, 07:15:50 AM »
Its been a couple weeks now and even though it hasnt been cold yet Im loving my 5036! Im really happy with everything except one thing which was driving me nuts. I noticed a piece of wood or two(even tho i would pull everything to the front) would somehow find its way back by the last baffle and would burn straight up out the exhaust. Also when loading sometimes i was afraid a longer piece might be sticking back there and if it was even close i noticed flames blowing under it. I know...who cares...but I DO. So I wanted to put in a half wall before the last baffle. That way it would ensure nothin gets behind it and would also direct flames straight up where its needed. I made a setup to try out and if it works out ok ill add something better next summer. So far I love it. I had the material layin around and only took bout an hour...
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Pipe insulation
« on: October 01, 2012, 03:39:34 AM »
I have a basement thats not heated so I insulated the heck out of mine. Like mentioned before...the stuff is cheap
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: external water storage
« on: September 29, 2012, 06:51:48 AM »
I heard a guy put a 100 gal water heater tank in his basement used for added water storage to his system and he claimed it cut his wood usage down a noticable differance.
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Plumbing / Re: plumbing a braze plate into domestic hot water
« on: September 28, 2012, 07:18:26 AM »
I cut my closest cold water line and put a T in it, then put in a ball valve, then ran it to top left of plate ex. like this....
Then I cut my closest hot water line and did the same thing. Ran it from bottom left to hot water line. So cold comin in top and hot comin out the bottom.
Your boiler water you want the supply to run opposite of your cold so I put my boiler water inlet on bottom and comes out the top.
I recommend puting in a bypass also. Ive noticed with mine that you dont need much flow through it at all. Ive got my bypass wide open and the discharge (boiler side) cracked half back and cant even tell a differance in water temp out faucet
Hope this helps
Then I cut my closest hot water line and did the same thing. Ran it from bottom left to hot water line. So cold comin in top and hot comin out the bottom.
Your boiler water you want the supply to run opposite of your cold so I put my boiler water inlet on bottom and comes out the top.
I recommend puting in a bypass also. Ive noticed with mine that you dont need much flow through it at all. Ive got my bypass wide open and the discharge (boiler side) cracked half back and cant even tell a differance in water temp out faucet
Hope this helps
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Central Boiler / Re: Pics of my install as I go
« on: September 26, 2012, 11:16:06 AM »
Anyone else running with bypass on there plate exchanger open? Ive been crackin mine open a little more everyday and then today I opened it all the way and took a shower. I didnt notice any differance. Water still steamin hot(havent got the mixing valve hooked up yet). This is gotta be good. Instead of all my water goin through, now only part of it does which means my return water should be hotter. I figure the waters gonna flow through the path of least resistance and the exchanger has got to offer alot more than the bypass. Next time I might try crackin the inlet to exchanger a bit.
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Central Boiler / Re: Pics of my install as I go
« on: September 26, 2012, 09:34:23 AM »
The wood rack I just built.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Legend Hat
« on: September 23, 2012, 11:29:28 AM »
Thats awesome! I was thinkin of doin something like that too maybe next year. Was thinkin an exhaust fan also. Let us know how it is 
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Central Boiler / Re: Pics of my install as I go
« on: September 21, 2012, 08:39:37 AM »
I know, I debated whether or not I should get a darker color or not cause I knew it would end up discolored over time. Thermostat is hooked up and everything is goin great. Is it normal to open the door and poke at it every 15 minutes lol I havent even burned any of my wood yet. Just been goin back and gathering up old, dry, dead stuff. House is 74 and water is HOT and not using a drop of propane(except for the damn dryer and stove...dohhhh!)