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Plumbing / Re: Logstor pipe in a coil...wants to stay that way.
« on: November 05, 2012, 08:47:16 PM »
I'm still waiting for an email with information from the factory rep. The guy said he was sending it while we were on the phone, I think perhaps he sent the email to someone else. Such is life eh. Will call again tomorrow.

Will give consideration to "somehow" as well. The idea of installing a larger pipe through which to pull the logstor has some merit I think.

Might have to see how many guys I know that will work for beer and smokeys. :)

Regards,

Al

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Plumbing / Re: Logstor pipe in a coil...wants to stay that way.
« on: November 05, 2012, 12:34:59 PM »
Waiting on a call from a company rep. Also looking for any contractors who work with this stuff..if you know of any in Alberta, please let me know.

Hooking it to the boiler might work, just not sure how much heat loss there will be...enough to warm the casing?  I suppose if it'll melt snow, the pipe has to get warm on the outside first huh. ;) Have zero experience with this product.

Could connect one end as suggested and hook the other end up to a garden hose would need a valve on the "return" end too I suppose...re plumb the hose bib on the house into the domestic hot water...wouldn't take too long to try at any rate. Get it full of hot water, close the valves, let it sit for 15 minutes, drain and refill.

It's a condensing NG boiler with a plate exchanger for DHW...should be enough hot water. :)

Will have a look and see what I need to try this out when I get home.

Thanks, and keep the ideas coming please. :)

Al


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Plumbing / Re: Logstor pipe in a coil...wants to stay that way.
« on: November 04, 2012, 09:00:50 PM »
Buried run is ~75' + rises/entry on both ends, total length of the pipe is supposed to be 88'.

Hot water might not do it...have been perusing the pdf's from Logstor, and they have a trailer with a "straightening" attachment...looks like a heat box of some sort. Kind of explains why it lays out so nice looking in their pics hmm.

Hoping to get it opened up enough that it'll go in...even if I have to fight it a little...just don't like the idea of really forcing stuff...always ends badly I find.

Tried heating it with a 30000btu ready heater...had a few feet (near one end) of it hot enough to push the surface with a finger and then tried to pull it straight, holding until it cooled...laid it down and it just went back where it was before I started. :bash:

Al

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Plumbing / Logstor pipe in a coil...wants to stay that way.
« on: November 04, 2012, 07:29:33 PM »
Hi all,

I live on an acreage a bit south of Edmonton Alberta. We built a garage over the summer and have planned to run the in floor heat as another zone off the boiler in the house. After lurking around and doing some reading, I sourced out and purchased 1" Logstor dual (supply and return) pipe for the buried line.

All good so far...not cheap, but will hopefully be reliable. Picked up the pipe and fittings and brought them home. Temps now are fairly consistently below freezing, and I cannot get this stuff to uncoil. Have contacted the supplier, and they suggest keeping it at room temp for a minimum 24 hours before trying to straighten it.

Problem is that I can't exactly get it into the house (the wife has a rifle and WOULD shoot me ;) and the garage obviously doesn't have real heat at this point. :(

I've a kerosene heater running in the garage currently and have been able to enlarge the coil to ~15' diameter, but it's still REAL stiff and wants to spring back to the smaller diameter. I very much doubt it's going to cooperate to get it into the trench.

Has anyone dealt with this issue successfully? What did you do?

Need some help fellas...REAL COLD is just around the corner here.

Thanks,

Al

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