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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: HELP! Has my pump went out or are my lines frozen?
« on: February 03, 2013, 02:26:07 PM »
Yea the pump isn't rattling. I plan on placing on the bottom for that fact of the weight of the water to help with pushing air out and not run out of water.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: HELP! Has my pump went out or are my lines frozen?
« on: February 03, 2013, 01:06:01 PM »
Scott, the supply is on the top. I bet when it over heated and steamed out the pump sucked air, not water. Will I need to replace that pump?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: HELP! Has my pump went out or are my lines frozen?
« on: February 03, 2013, 01:03:16 PM »
There isn't any insulation underground. The pipe comes right into the basement that is heated. The only possibly spot the lines could be frozen are at the OWB. The only valves on the system is a fill valve in the basement on the feed line, then there are some valves that are used to bypass the water heater or not.
I will say that who ever plumbed the system, I am not happy with. I will be doing some re-plumbing this spring.
The only way it purges air is the over flow tube at the top of the tank that has dual purpose of overflow and make sure it doesn't build up too much pressure.
I really appreciate all the help.
I will say that who ever plumbed the system, I am not happy with. I will be doing some re-plumbing this spring.
The only way it purges air is the over flow tube at the top of the tank that has dual purpose of overflow and make sure it doesn't build up too much pressure.
I really appreciate all the help.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: HELP! Has my pump went out or are my lines frozen?
« on: February 03, 2013, 12:47:38 PM »
unless its somewhere in the heat exchange, i havent been able to find one.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: HELP! Has my pump went out or are my lines frozen?
« on: February 03, 2013, 12:42:36 PM »
I have 1" pex pipe underground. Grundfos 15-58 pump at the OWB. I have thought about it being air locked but who ever owned the house before me and installed the OWB didn't install isolation valves for the pump. I think at the end of the day, I am gonna have to take the pump off and see what happened.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / HELP! Has my pump went out or are my lines frozen?
« on: February 03, 2013, 11:08:07 AM »
So I have been struggling with this for about a week now. Here's is the story.
I had let my fire go out on the burner cause of warmer temps, but I fired it back up last weekend with the forecast of cold temps. I got a good fire going and water temps going up as well. I loaded it up before I went to bed on Sunday night. Woke up to a cold house and went down to the exchanger to see if the water line was warm, but it was cold. My though was the fire went out and had a blower issue. I went out to the burner and saw steam coming out of the overflow tube. Come to find out, the breaker blew sometime in the middle of night and so the fire kept heating the water to boiling point. I flipped the breaker back on and added more water to the tank, not knowing how much water was steamed away.
Turned everything back on, but the breaker kept overloading, but for the short time it would run, I had hot water flowing fine. After some checking, I determined the breaker was bad and switched out the breaker.
Now here comes the problem, I turned everything on and I could feel the pump running and the fan was turning on just fine. I started a fire and got it going and heating water, but after about 2-3 hours, I had steam coming out of the over flow tube again.
The situation is now, that I have hot water going into the pump and the pump is hot too...now the pipe leading out of the pump is cool to the touch. I am just assuming when the breaker overloaded the hot water, over heated the pump and seized up.
Now I thought I would take the pump off and verify my assumptions, I was going to drain some water out (drain valve is in basement of house below ground), but didn't have any water come out of it when I opened it up.
So, do I have frozen lines or bad pump or both? Wasn't sure if any one has seen this? PLEASE HELP! I don't want to run the indoor wood stove for the rest of the winter.
I had let my fire go out on the burner cause of warmer temps, but I fired it back up last weekend with the forecast of cold temps. I got a good fire going and water temps going up as well. I loaded it up before I went to bed on Sunday night. Woke up to a cold house and went down to the exchanger to see if the water line was warm, but it was cold. My though was the fire went out and had a blower issue. I went out to the burner and saw steam coming out of the overflow tube. Come to find out, the breaker blew sometime in the middle of night and so the fire kept heating the water to boiling point. I flipped the breaker back on and added more water to the tank, not knowing how much water was steamed away.
Turned everything back on, but the breaker kept overloading, but for the short time it would run, I had hot water flowing fine. After some checking, I determined the breaker was bad and switched out the breaker.
Now here comes the problem, I turned everything on and I could feel the pump running and the fan was turning on just fine. I started a fire and got it going and heating water, but after about 2-3 hours, I had steam coming out of the over flow tube again.
The situation is now, that I have hot water going into the pump and the pump is hot too...now the pipe leading out of the pump is cool to the touch. I am just assuming when the breaker overloaded the hot water, over heated the pump and seized up.
Now I thought I would take the pump off and verify my assumptions, I was going to drain some water out (drain valve is in basement of house below ground), but didn't have any water come out of it when I opened it up.
So, do I have frozen lines or bad pump or both? Wasn't sure if any one has seen this? PLEASE HELP! I don't want to run the indoor wood stove for the rest of the winter.
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