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HeatMaster / Re: Is the E series worth the extra grand?
« on: March 18, 2014, 01:05:38 PM »
Best way to burn half as much wood is to burn coal! 
In all seriousness, the ability to burn coal in a Heatmaster, was one that I really underestimated, and did not give a lot of thought to when purchasing my stove. I've been burning on the same ton for 5+ weeks now. It has REALLY stretched my wood for this last bit (hopefully) of winter. I feel much better now about the amount of wood I have cut for next year, knowing a couple tons of coal can be used to supplement.
I'm running a standard 10000
In all seriousness, the ability to burn coal in a Heatmaster, was one that I really underestimated, and did not give a lot of thought to when purchasing my stove. I've been burning on the same ton for 5+ weeks now. It has REALLY stretched my wood for this last bit (hopefully) of winter. I feel much better now about the amount of wood I have cut for next year, knowing a couple tons of coal can be used to supplement.
I'm running a standard 10000
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HeatMaster / Re: anyone burning coal in their heatmaster?
« on: March 03, 2014, 09:20:04 AM »
I'm loving my coal burner too. My wood pile has really been stretched with the ton of coal I bought. I'm getting 24+ hours without adding any wood or coal. I usually check and stir it at 7:30 AM which is about the 14 hr mark. Not sure it needs it, but it's part of my morning routine. I've been burning coal for 3 weeks, and still have over half a ton.
The smoke is really bad though! Like John said, thick black, "I just set a pile of tires on fire" smoke! But like John, it smokes very little after a couple cycles. I'm thinking I may put my wood load in at my normal 5:30 time, then go out after dark and toss in my coal, just to be a little less conspicuous!
The smoke is really bad though! Like John said, thick black, "I just set a pile of tires on fire" smoke! But like John, it smokes very little after a couple cycles. I'm thinking I may put my wood load in at my normal 5:30 time, then go out after dark and toss in my coal, just to be a little less conspicuous!
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Equipment / Re: SAWS Wich ONE
« on: February 28, 2014, 05:56:05 PM »
I'd suggest maybe looking at a Husquvarna 545. It is a little smaller cc compared to a 455 (50 vs 55), but it is an Autotune saw, and it is a little more rugged. It's between the homeowner grade and the full out Pro XP. It makes about the same HP, and is 2 lbs lighter!! MSRP is about $60 more
I run both Stihl and Husquvarna. I personally like the handling of Husquvarna. They seem sleeker and more nimble than their Stihl counterparts. My main saw is a Husq 562 XP. After you run it, it's hard to pick up anything else!
I run both Stihl and Husquvarna. I personally like the handling of Husquvarna. They seem sleeker and more nimble than their Stihl counterparts. My main saw is a Husq 562 XP. After you run it, it's hard to pick up anything else!
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HeatMaster / Re: anyone burning coal in their heatmaster?
« on: February 15, 2014, 09:35:36 PM »
Little update.... I seemed the last couple days to be having trouble keeping fire with the coal. Temps would be down in the 140s in the morning, with just a little fire burning. Still had some wood, but the coal just couldn't get going. So yesterday evening I raked everything down, and decided to load a little more wood than I had been doing. Also put in some split stuff on the bottom. I added my bucket of coal first, then the wood. Also tossed in a couple big lumps on top of the wood when I finished. I didn't add a full load of wood, but more than I had been. Also set my differential to 10.
Big Difference!!! Bigger, hotter fire, that would have probably given me a 30+ hour burn. Loaded it back similar this evening. Saw a 1 ft flame shooting out a bit ago, so i think it's rolling!! It ran a cycle in ~10 minutes
I believe when I started earlier in the week, I had a good bed of wood coals to keep the coal burning. After a couple days,my wood coals had burnt up, and the big heavy locust rounds just weren't coaling up good enough to keep a good mix of wood and coal "coal bed". I think it is similar to the problem I had early in the year when I was under loading my stove, and couldn't keep it burning.
Not sure how much a bucket of coal saves me in wood per day, but it seems substantial.
Big Difference!!! Bigger, hotter fire, that would have probably given me a 30+ hour burn. Loaded it back similar this evening. Saw a 1 ft flame shooting out a bit ago, so i think it's rolling!!
It ran a cycle in ~10 minutesI believe when I started earlier in the week, I had a good bed of wood coals to keep the coal burning. After a couple days,my wood coals had burnt up, and the big heavy locust rounds just weren't coaling up good enough to keep a good mix of wood and coal "coal bed". I think it is similar to the problem I had early in the year when I was under loading my stove, and couldn't keep it burning.
Not sure how much a bucket of coal saves me in wood per day, but it seems substantial.
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HeatMaster / Re: anyone burning coal in their heatmaster?
« on: February 13, 2014, 11:51:25 AM »
Like I mentioned in the other thread, I'm just tinkering as well. Just started this week, so I certainly don't claim to be an expert, BUT.........what I've been doing is adding 1-2 5 gallon buckets of lumps (or rough equivalent) I've been adding this to a good bed of coals. Then I have been adding 3-5 locust rounds. They are ~8-10" round by ~18"long.
My schedule has been more variable than usual this week due to the snow, but that load has been giving 24 hours burns. I came up a little short this morning, but we have been home with the snow, and kept the thermostat on 75, so that cut me a little short. Temps have been upper teens to around freezing.
Hope that helps a little.
My schedule has been more variable than usual this week due to the snow, but that load has been giving 24 hours burns. I came up a little short this morning, but we have been home with the snow, and kept the thermostat on 75, so that cut me a little short. Temps have been upper teens to around freezing.
Hope that helps a little.
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HeatMaster / Re: anyone burning coal in their heatmaster?
« on: February 13, 2014, 10:35:39 AM »
John, I believe the general consensus is that lump is preferable in an OWB. Wish I could find it for $51/ton.
I'm not sure on the specific dimensions, but I have a 3/4 ton pickup with an 8ft bed. A ton heaped up in the middle, just a bit higher than bed level. I'm guessing if you raked it down, it would have have been 5-6" below level. I could have easily hauled another 1/2 ton, maybe a full one if I pushed it!
I'm not sure on the specific dimensions, but I have a 3/4 ton pickup with an 8ft bed. A ton heaped up in the middle, just a bit higher than bed level. I'm guessing if you raked it down, it would have have been 5-6" below level. I could have easily hauled another 1/2 ton, maybe a full one if I pushed it!
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: post EPA wood boilers
« on: February 13, 2014, 02:18:44 AM »They wont go door to door, that would take to much man power. they will just fight it at the source, the manufacturers, there they will offer the states grants and other incentives to help police a federal law.
The big scare is attack on personal freedoms and the downright shame of the matter. To think you can own land, own trees, but cant burn them to heat your home makes my blood boil
The 2020 regulations will be to the point it will be nearly impossible to afford a *new* Wood burning appliance
Forcing people from energy independence onto the system of depending on someone else
Shewww.... What happened to this land?
Are you sure you own the land.......I mean really sure? Apparently the EPA has all kinds of new power!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/12/wyoming-officials-prepare-for-court-fight-against-epa-ruling-that-gave-land-to/
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Burning a little coal
« on: February 12, 2014, 01:46:37 PM »Are you mixing it with wood? Any advice how to mix with wood ?
Yeah, I'm mixing right now. I've let my wood burn down to a good coal bed, to the point I was ready to load it back up. I then put a 5 gallon bucket's worth of lumps in the hot wood coal bed. Then I add 3-4 good size halves or rounds of hardwood. Still in the learning phase, so don't take my advice as the gospel!
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Burning a little coal
« on: February 12, 2014, 12:40:59 PM »
Andy, I'm running 175 with a 6 diff. I think Boydz said earlier he was running a diff of 5. It does seem to go 3-5 degrees beyond set cutoff. When I've been able to watch it cycle, it recovers very quick and does not run very long. With an all wood fire, and a diff of 10-12, mine takes a while to get rolling, and often drops another 3-5 degrees before it starts raising the temp.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Burning a little coal
« on: February 12, 2014, 07:00:29 AM »
Great balls of fire!! Have been burning coal for two days now. I can see how it would really cut wood consumption. I put a 5 gallon bucket worth of softball size lumps in Monday evening, and half of bucket of the sweepings from my truck bed yesterday evening. Just guessing, but I have probably only used a "half load" of wood over this period. Running a 6 degree differential, but it seems to climb and additional 3-5 degrees after it shuts off. Went out late last night just out of curiosity. Opened the door to a HOT, blue flame fire. I can't believe how much hotter it burns than wood!
Oh, you've never seen a "starved for air fireball" door opening, until you've seen a coal fired one!! Very stupid, and very lucky on that one!
Oh, you've never seen a "starved for air fireball" door opening, until you've seen a coal fired one!! Very stupid, and very lucky on that one!
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Burning a little coal
« on: February 10, 2014, 06:45:38 PM »
Well, I've looked and called around local. Seems a lot of people have quit selling coal in just the last couple years. Found some in Bristol, TN. It was $180/ton. He said he was the only guy in town still selling coal. I bought a ton just to see how it does so I can make plans for next year. I'm going to expand my research. If I can save $100/ton, I might can afford a little diesel to head to eastern KY. Talked to a guy at church yesterday who's business deals with mining. He said all the active mines in VA right now are deep mines, with no strip jobs currently running, and that was driving the high price locally?
Anyhow....if I'm still mixing with a fair amount of hardwood, do I need to lower my differential significantly?
Anyhow....if I'm still mixing with a fair amount of hardwood, do I need to lower my differential significantly?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Burning a little coal
« on: January 28, 2014, 06:39:45 PM »
Thanks Scott. I think I will definitely have some coal for next year. When you figure (even with the best of intentions) the typical OWB wood quality may be less than optimal (at least part of the burn season), I'd say your 6000 btu/lb is rather generous. I know I can really tell a difference when I load up high quality locust, oak or hickory. It burns HOT, and will put those 12-15 degrees back in short order.
Where are you in KY? Wondering how far I need to drive to find a reasonable price?
Where are you in KY? Wondering how far I need to drive to find a reasonable price?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Burning a little coal
« on: January 27, 2014, 05:51:45 PM »
I know there are many variables, but if you had to take a guess, a pickup load of lump coal would = how many loads of quality seasoned hardwood?
I haven't looked around much, but found it delivered for $180/ ton. I'm in Southwest VA, but still about an hour from coal country. Need to research a little more.
I haven't looked around much, but found it delivered for $180/ ton. I'm in Southwest VA, but still about an hour from coal country. Need to research a little more.
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Fire Wood / Re: Giant Hedge!
« on: January 01, 2014, 08:42:56 AM »
I burned a bunch in my indoor stove the last couple years (before OWB) I burns great! Not a problem in the OWB, but NEVER stoke a hedge fire at 2 AM in nothing but your boxer shorts!!! You'll cut some dance moves you never knew you had!! (It sparks really bad)
I cut some the other day that I thought would be somewhat dry, but still had a lot of the milky sap coming out of it.
I cut some the other day that I thought would be somewhat dry, but still had a lot of the milky sap coming out of it.
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HeatMaster / Re: Just had to brag on my 10000E just a little!!!
« on: December 12, 2013, 09:37:08 AM »
Been loading (3/4) my Standard 10000, once a day. Keeping 3700 sq ft house at 73-75. That's been primarily wild cherry, red oak (poor quality),hemlock, and now some hickory.
We were out of town for Thanksgiving which was the coldest weather of the season. Set thermostat back to 69. My neighbor loaded it slam full Friday evening. I still had a warm house Sunday at 2:00 when I got home. Nothing but fine ash in the stove, but water had only dropped to 140. Stirred the ashes a little, and to my surprise saw a couple sparks! Put some dry quartered hickory in, and she took right back off!
We were out of town for Thanksgiving which was the coldest weather of the season. Set thermostat back to 69. My neighbor loaded it slam full Friday evening. I still had a warm house Sunday at 2:00 when I got home. Nothing but fine ash in the stove, but water had only dropped to 140. Stirred the ashes a little, and to my surprise saw a couple sparks! Put some dry quartered hickory in, and she took right back off!
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