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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Looking to buy an outdoor wood boiler
« on: February 13, 2011, 06:50:47 PM »
You can also heat multiple buildings and DHW with one of the gassifiers I am considering. All year long, No SMOKE, In winter time on 4-6 hour burn/day, and one burn every 4-5 days! Depending on area you are going to heat, I'm going to be doing 2200'& DHW on 14-16 facecords/year. That's less than 8 full cords/year. You will be hard pressed to come anywhere near that amount with an outdoor woodeater.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Looking to buy an outdoor wood boiler
« on: February 13, 2011, 06:45:21 PM »
Tule, perhaps you have not read my previous postings. I said I was looking at having an indoor gassifier by next winter and I supplement NG with the Quad. And I know the Quad doesn't heat the whole house. I may have been born @night it just wasn't last night. All I know for sure is I'm damn glad I found out about indoor gassifiers/storage before I spent the money on an outdoor woodeater!! If a person doesn't at least look @ these he's making a large mistake!
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Looking to buy an outdoor wood boiler
« on: February 12, 2011, 06:41:40 PM »
I burn indoor, with a Quadrafire stove. And have burned for 40 years! I have several friends and relatives that burn outdoor. The indoor wood gassifiers I speak of burn one fire of 4 to 6 hours a day only, not all day long. You need to study them and consider them as an excellant option!
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Looking to buy an outdoor wood boiler
« on: February 12, 2011, 09:08:12 AM »
Looked at outdoor for a while. In MHO you should at least consider a european style gassifier with water storage. Your wood consumption will be way less than these outdoor wood hogs. I have found at least 2 in my local area that heat there homes and DHW with 15-17 face cords of wood per year, burning 24" wood. That's at most about 9 pulpcords. Look at effecta.us or paxo. I believe there are even a few US makers but they lag behind in technology. I'm seriously considering having an Effecta Lambda 35kw with 1000 gal storage ready for next winter.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Considering???
« on: January 25, 2011, 08:56:38 PM »
Dirt,
I didn't tell you that I supplement with about 2 1/2 full cords of wood heat, and am beginning to suspect that at least 3 members of household may have allergies of some sort associated with the wood heat.
I didn't tell you that I supplement with about 2 1/2 full cords of wood heat, and am beginning to suspect that at least 3 members of household may have allergies of some sort associated with the wood heat.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Considering???
« on: January 25, 2011, 01:07:08 PM »
I'm told the boiler heats to 182 degrees. If I jump to 6" it will cost $3-4000 just to put pipe in. I was talking about a 4"steel pipe and then running triple wrapped pex thru that, or else filling pipe with srayed foam. Rest of the run would probably triple wrapped in the flexibe 4" tube style I see most people using around here.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Considering???
« on: January 25, 2011, 10:44:24 AM »
Hello folks! I'm am considering an OWB. I have some questions I would like you to consider.
1. My system now is a NG boiler that runs part of the home on HW heat and also runs into a forced air HX to heat the balance of
home. It also is heating our DHW. I asked my OEM installer if I could just install a W/W HX for the whole system. He says it
would be be difficult to do because of heat loss at the W/W HX he claims you loss 15 degrees with these things. He also says it
would be difficult to keep system automatic, meaning hard to keep the systems seperate yet have the NG system start up on its
own if need be. Any thoughts on this??
2. I'm heating home and pole building for about $2400 per year. Figuring to operate system from Oct-April Figuring on saving about
80% of this as NG bill is about $30/mon. rest of year. Seem logical?
3. I will have to run lines under a paved road(about 30') I can have a 4" pipe installed for about $1500 and then run lines thru this
either wrapped or foam pipe after lines are threaded thru, recommendations please.
I'm located in northern lower Michigan and frostline is 42" so I'm a little concerned about the road crossing over the lines driving frost
down to the lines.
n.
1. My system now is a NG boiler that runs part of the home on HW heat and also runs into a forced air HX to heat the balance of
home. It also is heating our DHW. I asked my OEM installer if I could just install a W/W HX for the whole system. He says it
would be be difficult to do because of heat loss at the W/W HX he claims you loss 15 degrees with these things. He also says it
would be difficult to keep system automatic, meaning hard to keep the systems seperate yet have the NG system start up on its
own if need be. Any thoughts on this??
2. I'm heating home and pole building for about $2400 per year. Figuring to operate system from Oct-April Figuring on saving about
80% of this as NG bill is about $30/mon. rest of year. Seem logical?
3. I will have to run lines under a paved road(about 30') I can have a 4" pipe installed for about $1500 and then run lines thru this
either wrapped or foam pipe after lines are threaded thru, recommendations please.
I'm located in northern lower Michigan and frostline is 42" so I'm a little concerned about the road crossing over the lines driving frost
down to the lines.
n.
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