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Jack72

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Re: Reaction Chamber Temp
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2012, 04:40:30 AM »

Jack72, I think you have mentioned in the past that Central Boiler has made a change to the air channel in the E-classic 1450.  I believe you mentioned they made the area where the air holes are located, a removable panel to aid in cleaning.  Can you post a picture of it for me?  In the off season I'm thinking of making some changes to that area of the E-classic 1400 where they are welded in place.  Makes for a pain to clean when creosote gets in the area between air holes where you can't reach it without a bit of cussing.  Thanks, Roger

Yes no problem              next time I give a good cleaning (maybe next Sunday I have something going on today)                      I will post a pic so you can see it well      I think it would be fairly easy to modify yours       I would just get nervous about the warranty     but your just adding a feature not changing a design. (no different than what they did)                 Jack
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Re: Reaction Chamber Temp
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2012, 07:25:29 AM »

I've had similar problems with my 2300 air channels.  I'm going to copy and paste a post I did on another thread last night.  Tells what I've done to get around my problem.  I too was a little worried about my warranty but the original design just isn't conducive for cleaning and maintaining good burn.  Here's what I wrote and the details of what I did to fix my problem.  Also I'll attach a picture.

New plan.  It won't let me paste from the other thread.  You can find it under "Melting E-Classic" thread.    Long story short, I built my own new channel out of pipe up to the roof of the firebox.  It is working excellent so far.  I may actually have to slow down my air flow.  If anybody is interested in more info feel free to ask.


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Re: Reaction Chamber Temp
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2012, 11:08:35 AM »

I've had similar problems with my 2300 air channels.  I'm going to copy and paste a post I did on another thread last night.  Tells what I've done to get around my problem.  I too was a little worried about my warranty but the original design just isn't conducive for cleaning and maintaining good burn.  Here's what I wrote and the details of what I did to fix my problem.  Also I'll attach a picture.

New plan.  It won't let me paste from the other thread.  You can find it under "Melting E-Classic" thread.    Long story short, I built my own new channel out of pipe up to the roof of the firebox.  It is working excellent so far.  I may actually have to slow down my air flow.  If anybody is interested in more info feel free to ask.


-Jeff

Jeff, Is there any adverse effect on the pulse feature and do the coal reconstitute themselves easily after it closes the air flow? 

My plan was to use a cutoff saw or plasma cutter and remove the panels making the channel behind it visible.  Once I did that I'd make another panel only larger than the channel, the bottom would be fixed to floor of the fire box via a heavy duty hinge.  To close the panel simply flip it up and put a couple of pins through something similar to a hasp used on a padlock unit.  When I need to clean the channel of creosote simply the pins and flip down the panel, scrape out the junk.  When you're done flip it back up and put the pins back in place.  your thoughts.  Roger
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Re: Reaction Chamber Temp
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2012, 08:17:39 PM »

Roger-

It's been like having a whole new furnace these last 5 days.  I did slightly restrict my primary air flow today to see what happens (lowered my solenoid a touch).  Your idea sounds good.  I would ask myself this.  How do the channels look, overall?  In my case, the side channels were really falling apart, separating some from the sidewalls and just full of crud with no way to clean it out.  Originally it didn't even have drain holes for the creosote.  This furnace was doomed from the start and I feel I started having troubles the first year.  Central Boiler has been willing to cover repairs but what good is it when a couple of months later it's filled up again.  Last year we cut a chunk out of the back wall and left side and scraped out what we could, but it was still hard to get in there and the creosote litterally has to be chisseled out once it starts to cool.  No fun at all.  Anyway, I was thrilled that night, it burned great, for a couple of weeks, then it started filling up again.  This year, the patch that we cut out last year started to rot away.  I have  a hole 1" x2 1/2".  And on the right side there is 2 vertical cracks top to bottom and the top lip between them is warping and pulling away from the wall.  It's a mess, with only 3 1/2 heating seasons on it.  I feel I actually have some control over the unit for a change.

It re-fires faster than it ever has, within 20 to 30 seconds there is usually no smoke at all, only heat coming out.  I like the idea of my air being up away from the coal and ash bed.  I'm still getting a pretty even burn, favors the back a little but I can compensate for most of that.  I'm happy with my decision.  I may tweak it a little for next year, but at this point I'm very happy with it's performance.   Note that my unit does not have the Pulse feature.  There is an add-on cycle timer that I am considering.  Waiting to hear the price on it.  Probably look at that for next year.

One thing to keep in mind with your proposed idea is this.  You'll need to make sure it is quite air tight.  If too much air is leaking out around your seems, it will alter your fire to the back of the stove.  You'll find it burning much hotter and faster at the back making it hard to reload unless it's moslty burned down to coals.  Hope this helps in some way.  It's just my 2 cents worth but I feel like I've been a slave to this thing for several years now and I finally feel like I have some control and freedom back.  I don't know how to explain it, I just never felt like I could count on it to be burning good at any given time.  It has always smoked more that I thought it should, esp. since I know somebody else with the same unit and his has never smoked as much.  And his son lives next door to me.  His wood is delivered there and his son cuts and splits it for him.  He's usually burning it as he cuts and splits it totally green and he's always had better luck.  His wood comes from the same guy I get mine from.  My wood is not all dry, but mostly cut split and stored in a greenhouses with the sun drying on it throughout the fall.  I couldn't figure it out.  Now I have.  Wasn't the wood at all.  I think he'll be facing the same decision about his air channels soon though.  I was looking at them the other day.

Jeff
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