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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2014, 08:46:51 AM »

I do agree Slim, but maybe the problem could be solved with a cloverleaf chimney cap. As for your gassers,
everybody can't build a roof over there wood to keep it between 15-20% moisture. And at a 20% failure rate, gassers just aren't a good investment for the cost of one.
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2014, 09:11:42 AM »

Again woodbutcher, You seem to not be reading so good! Failure rates of about 20% were seen on the early models of the Wood Doctor gassers, They are belly up and I quit working with them when they buried their heads in the sand leaving many of my customers screwed, a lot has been learned over the past 5-6 years, Again you exagerate with moisture content of the wood, Gassers can burn greener wood as well but there is a learning curve, they simply need to have a decent load put on them when burning not so well seasoned wood and they also need to be kept clean, as any boiler, indoor, outdoor, gasser or non gasser, I burn very green oak at about 80% of my shows with absolutely no issues. Your idea of the clover leaf chimney cap is not a bad idea but it still does not solve the high stack temp issues of most conventional boilers, let me ask you a couple of questions, first, have you ever measured the exhaust temp(not the stack but actual exhaust temp )of your CB when it is running hard, I have measured several of them and will not post those temps here simply because I don't bash other peoples product. Second question, have you ever seen our B-L series units, they are very competitive in price to what you are currently running, burn much cleaner and BOAST an exhaust temp of 550 degrees F, sometimes price does reflect quality and design!
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2014, 07:42:52 AM »

Let's get back to the original question. CB does have a solution for lowering the burn rate, which might help to solve the problem that Chas has.
Page 18 Central Boiler Parts catalog, can be downloaded through CB web site at

Under Classic Outdoor Wood Furnace Brochure

Classic Outdoor Wood Furnace BrochureClassic Outdoor Wood Furnace Brochurehttp://www.centralboiler.com/

Chimney Tee Restrictor Kit

Installed in chimney tee to lower the burn rate.
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2014, 08:36:35 AM »

OK so let's recap shall we, You say that the increased draft and flame out of the stack is not an issue, I think it is. You say there is not enough difference betwwen high cost boilers and low cost boilers to make the high end stuff worthwhile, I think the fact that they even sell the restrictor plate is evidence enough that a true 3 pass boiler and exhaust temps of 550 degrees or less without a restrictor plate is evidence enough that you are quite bias to your product, I have asked you several times if you have ever seen our product , you have never answered, you might want to have a look at it before you comment on another companies products and current pricing, by the way the B-L  28-40 is now listed for $8300 34-44 is $9700, if you ever saw the difference between a normal conventional unit and the B-L series in operation you probably would not be making the comments that you have in the past regarding value
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2014, 09:34:39 AM »

You're right. I have never seen a P&M anyplace close to to me. I wish I could see one in operation.
I didn't come up with this solution, CB did. And I was bias about my CB. That was the old model. I don't think I would by the new model 6048 which runs over $9,000.,and the gassers over $12,000. Owner of P&M boilers are just no ware to be found in my area. 
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2014, 10:05:59 AM »

That might have something to do with people looking at prices before seeing the quality and design!
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2014, 05:07:16 PM »

  Where are you located Woodbutcher?
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2014, 06:45:57 AM »

  Where are you located Woodbutcher?
South Central WI. About 50 miles north of Milwaukee.
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2014, 08:10:07 PM »

  Woodbutcher, I am not a dealer just a happy owner of a BL 2840. Give P&M a call and inquire about a dealer close to you so you can have a look. They might even put you in contact with someone in your area with one to talk to. I have been contacted a least a half dozen times and am always glad to show people my set up.
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2014, 04:04:46 AM »

Thanks Crow, great suggestion, seeing is believing !!
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2014, 08:03:23 AM »

I needed to add 8 ft of chimney on my bl 2840 in order to clear my peak. As per slim's recommendation I installed a damper in the breach. It should hopefully work fine there. She's not fired up yet so can't say yet how it will perform
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2014, 08:05:17 AM »

WELL DONE, Thank you!
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2014, 08:07:40 AM »

Darn upside down pictures. Lol
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2014, 08:10:16 AM »

Where did you get the damper?
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Re: Barometric damper question for Slimjim (and others)
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2014, 08:12:54 AM »

At my local plumbing/electrical shop. They do a lot of heating work as well so they happen to have some in stock
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