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[martyinmi]

I brought home some more firewood today. My friend stopped over and we had a beer and looked at my stacks that I've cut,split and stacked so far this year. I have 4 rows that measure 9 feet wide, 6 feet tall, and 26 feet long. I come up with just shy of 11 full cords, or not quite 33 face cords. He agrees on the full cord figure, but disagrees on the face cord amount. He says that each row has 4 7/8 cords. 4 7/8 x 4 = 19 1/2 face cords. The Wicopedia definition says I'm right. He says he's right. We bet a gallon of chainsaw oil on it (you know I'll be getting TSC oil if I win). Will you guys help us decide a winner? The majority rules and determines the winner. He will be back tomorrow to read results.

   Thanks

   Marty

[RSI]

Technically I think you lose.  Face cord isn't a real measurement. It is just one row off the stack. If you cut your wood 24" long instead of 16" then you only get 2 face cord per cord.
The only way I have ever seen it sold by the face cord though is in 16" lengths which is 3 per cord.

I may be wrong though.

[willieG]

I brought home some more firewood today. My friend stopped over and we had a beer and looked at my stacks that I've cut,split and stacked so far this year. I have 4 rows that measure 9 feet wide, 6 feet tall, and 26 feet long. I come up with just shy of 11 full cords, or not quite 33 face cords. He agrees on the full cord figure, but disagrees on the face cord amount. He says that each row has 4 7/8 cords. 4 7/8 x 4 = 19 1/2 face cords. The Wicopedia definition says I'm right. He says he's right. We bet a gallon of chainsaw oil on it (you know I'll be getting TSC oil if I win). Will you guys help us decide a winner? The majority rules and determines the winner.

   Thanks

   Marty

9x6x26=1404 cubic feet devided by 128 =10.96855 cords
10.96855 x 3 (the number of face cords in a cord ((face cord being 4'x8'x16"))=32.90565 face cords

'thats the way i figure it but a face cord has different cubic feet totals to some folks but where i come from a  full cord is 4'x4'x8' adnd a face cord is 4'x16"x8' (or 1/3 of a full cord)


OIL UP!

[RSI]

I brought home some more firewood today. My friend stopped over and we had a beer and looked at my stacks that I've cut,split and stacked so far this year. I have 4 rows that measure 9 feet wide, 6 feet tall, and 26 feet long. I come up with just shy of 11 full cords, or not quite 33 face cords. He agrees on the full cord figure, but disagrees on the face cord amount. He says that each row has 4 7/8 cords. 4 7/8 x 4 = 19 1/2 face cords. The Wicopedia definition says I'm right. He says he's right. We bet a gallon of chainsaw oil on it (you know I'll be getting TSC oil if I win). Will you guys help us decide a winner? The majority rules and determines the winner.

   Thanks

   Marty

9x6x26=1404 cubic feet devided by 128 =10.96855 cords
10.96855 x 3 (the number of face cords in a cord ((face cord being 4'x8'x16"))=32.90565 face cords

'thats the way i figure it but a face cord has different cubic feet totals to some folks but where i come from a  full cord is 4'x4'x8' adnd a face cord is 4'x16"x8' (or 1/3 of a full cord)


OIL UP!

Only if the wood is cut 16" long. Since he cut it 27" long there are less face cords.
http://www.jwiwood.com/faq/rick.html

[RSI]

A face cord is also one row of 4' by 8'. But the difference is a face cord has lengths of sticks that will eventually add up to 4' when stacked in two, three, or four rows.
Example of a face cord:
Four rows of 12" sticks=4'
Three rows of 16"=4'
Two rows of 24"=4'

This was taken from the link I posted above. According to that your wood can't be measured in face cords since it can't add up to 4 foot long.

So using their numbers you have zero face cords.  Lol

[martyinmi]

Technically I think you lose.  Face cord isn't a real measurement. It is just one row off the stack. If you cut your wood 24" long instead of 16" then you only get 2 face cord per cord.
The only way I have ever seen it sold by the face cord though is in 16" lengths which is 3 per cord.

I may be wrong though.

He uses the same argument- in other words if he cut his pieces 6' long and stacked them in a 4' x 8' pile, he'd still have a face cord. So, RSI, who wins our bet- myself or my friend? The scales has to teeter one way or the other.

[Scott7m]

Ok this got me wondering how much wood is currently in my shed.. 

Shed is 16 feet wide and 18 feet long and the stack averages about 8 feet high.

16x18x8= 2304 cubic feet divided by 128 gives me 18 cord of wood. 

I'm really excited about the wood in there as it's the best I've ever had.  Mostly white oak and hickory, all split with a lot of heart cuts with no bark at all on them. 

[MattyNH]

Who sells or buys wood as a "facecord, rick or rack"? We all know that a cord of wood is 4x4x8 or 128 cubic feet..Plain and simple..According to that web sight that RSI posted ..Most states prohibited the use of those terms in a sale or ad, because its confusing..Its not the same measurement or volume as a cord of wood

[Scott7m]

Matty, didn't know they had regs like that anywhere.  I've only met a few people here that had even heard of wood being measured in a cord.  Alll the ads here just say truck load, most don't even specify whether it's short bed or long, s-10 or full size

[martyinmi]

Wood is bought and sold in our area here in Mi by the face cord all the time(usually between $40 and $65/cord). I've got reply's now from five guys and no ones told me who won the bet. I'm right, right?

Help a brother out now Scott!

[RSI]

Technically I think you lose.  Face cord isn't a real measurement. It is just one row off the stack. If you cut your wood 24" long instead of 16" then you only get 2 face cord per cord.
The only way I have ever seen it sold by the face cord though is in 16" lengths which is 3 per cord.

I may be wrong though.

He uses the same argument- in other words if he cut his pieces 6' long and stacked them in a 4' x 8' pile, he'd still have a face cord. So, RSI, who wins our bet- myself or my friend? The scales has to teeter one way or the other.

You can find websites that will say both ways but I would say you both lose because you need the length the wood is cut to add up to 48".
A cord is a legal unit of measure. A face cord is not.
Since you don't have it cut that length you can't measure it in face cords.

If you cut your wood 4 feet long then a face cord and full cord are the same.

[martyinmi]

OK RSI, you are out of my will!
Willie, after below post, you are in same boat as RSI.

[willieG]

as i stated in my post some folks figure a face cord at different lengths you can get a face cord measurment out of any length of wood (or very close) as you divide cubic feet into cubic feet

a real cord (the only legal size) is 128 cubic feet (normaly stacked 4'x4'x8')
if your definition of a face cord was 4'x8'x2' then you would get only 2 face cords

if your face cord was 4'x8'x3' then you would get  1 1/3 face cords

there is no real winner as the only legal cord is 128 cubic feet of wood in a cord..all other measurments are agrred upon between the seller and the buyer and can very from deal to deal but most often face cord is thought of as 1/3 of a legal cord (at least in my area)





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[BoilerHouse]

I have always understod a face cord to be one third of a full cord - i burnt nine full cords of wood last year or as some may say- 27 face cords.

[Scott7m]

lol I agree with Willie but as stated there is no real winner.  I don't think either is wrong or right since it's not an accepted measurement