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frequent burn cycles???
« on: February 11, 2013, 09:55:29 AM »

ok so the last 2 days its been in the 30's and my 6048 seems to be having a burn cycle every 1.5 to 2 hours. This seems odd as there is no heat load on the burner. i dont remember it this way last year. i heat my house, garage and hot water. I have a temp gauge on the out and in of the wood burner. looks to be a 3 degree loss in temp.
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2013, 10:03:02 AM »

ok i just checked it again and it looks like a 5 degree difference. The water runs one loop  to my house, plate exchanger, then to the garge and back to the burner.
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2013, 02:57:52 PM »

How are you checking it?  Could be some variables

Wood use increased? 

If it's truly 5 and your not using heat then that's a little high
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2013, 06:19:28 PM »

check your damper for crap around it and make sure your door seal is ok.
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2013, 06:56:17 PM »

check your damper for crap around it and make sure your door seal is ok.

If that were the case it would be cycling even less, because it would be gettin air even when it wasn't needing it. 

Hopefully how he's checkin his temps isn't accurate
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2013, 10:09:01 PM »

i have a temp and pressure gauge combo that i got from menards on both the in and out on the boiler behind the door. it seems so weird that its doin this and not even very cold out. the odd part is i havent changed anything or done anything different.
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2013, 10:11:47 PM »

Have you noticed an increase in wood use? 

How long did you think it idled before
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 04:29:48 AM »

check your damper for crap around it and make sure your door seal is ok.

If that were the case it would be cycling even less, because it would be gettin air even when it wasn't needing it. 

Hopefully how he's checkin his temps isn't accurate
yep I understand.
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 06:28:14 AM »

   Not trying to be a smart a$$, honest. But I read a post from January 2012 with this concern. Was your CB a new install with new pex lines? Is it possible heat loss to the ground? Can you switch your temp guages, maybe one is defective?
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2013, 08:13:28 AM »

If his gauges are accurate and such he could have a line issue, it has to go somewhere.

Maybe a pump issue?  If it were taking a long time make the loop it could cool more.... Hard tellin
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2013, 09:46:49 AM »

I would say there is an increase in wood but its hard to tell. Ive switched back and forth from oak and pine and have been out of town off and on so my gf was taking care of it. When i installed it i used thermo pex and barried it 4 feet under ground. I feel even with my temp gauges were defective that its burning way more then normal. I timed it last night. the burner shut down at 11:13 and fired back up at 12:54. the heat in the house only kicked on once. the temp outside was 25 degrees. I know i do loose heat where my furnace is because it stays pretty hot in there and will alone heat the house to pretty much anything above 35 degrees. i dont consider that lost heat as its heating the house and saving me money by not having the fan kick on as much in the furnace. Same with the garage. Last year i heated my garage for a few weeks in the cold of winter before i insulated it and i feel the burner still runs more now the when it did then. I have a small 900 sq feet home and 900 sq feet garage. i bought the 6048 as overkill and wanted it bigger for when i build my new house
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 09:50:46 AM »

If his gauges are accurate and such he could have a line issue, it has to go somewhere.

Maybe a pump issue?  If it were taking a long time make the loop it could cool more.... Hard tellin


Just curious. Regardless if the water ran slow or fast wouldnt the same amount of btu's be takin from the water?
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2013, 09:54:04 AM »

Well, I now feel you do have an issue

That's nearly 400 gallons of water cooling down what I would guess to be 10 degrees, by a fan kicking on one time in a 900sq ft home....

3,360 pounds of water cooling down 10 degrees....   1 btu per pound of water.   33,600 btu lost????
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2013, 09:55:44 AM »

If his gauges are accurate and such he could have a line issue, it has to go somewhere.

Maybe a pump issue?  If it were taking a long time make the loop it could cool more.... Hard tellin


Just curious. Regardless if the water ran slow or fast wouldnt the same amount of btu's be takin from the water?


Yea...  Ur homes requirements would stay the same, imwas just thinking if you killed your flow somehow and it was taking forever to return that it might cool down that much... 

Turn on your heat and hot water and check the difference between supply and return when you get chance, I'm curious
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Re: frequent burn cycles???
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2013, 10:47:11 AM »

ok here we go.

NO LOAD
burner 182
out      175
return  170

WATER ONLY tub and kitchen sink
out     175
return 140

HOUSE ONLY
out     175
return 155

GARAGE ONLY
out     175
return 142

HOUSE, GARAGE, HOT WATER
burner 184
out      175
return  105
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