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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2013, 02:15:57 PM »

Yes, they have a very good dealer right there in Conway NH just down the road, I have asked him several times to join us but he does not like doing big shows, he stops by when he's there but has no interest in an 8 day show,I can see his point as we seldom sell much on the spot but it does get the product in front of the public and if they like what they see the sales do come in later.
Yeah I see that dealer's truck from time to time when Im in Conway..Yeah I can see his point...But like you said least it gets the product out...I know Central has a spot at the Deerfield Fair..
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2013, 07:03:06 PM »

I'm not a fan of the shows n stuff really.  It's just not my style, I find salesman in general very aggravating so I always feel a bit guilty or awkward doing shows.  I Donno..  It's just me I guess
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2013, 05:41:25 AM »

I do not consider myself a sales man but instead a person who has helped hundreds of families get off oil, educating them on proper instalation, good burn practices and maintenance of many different brands rather I sold it or not. Sales is a very small part of what I do at the shows, they are a great time for all. We all should be working together to promote wood burning for heat as we do at Fryeburg fair, I have been to some shows where competition bashes each other and believe me, the potential customers then only look at us all as crooks and want nothing to do with the wood burning industry, contact the local dealers for Heatmor, Vigas, Benjamin and harmon if you don't believe that working together helps us all, we used to be all spread around the grounds now we are all together in location as well as mindset!
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2013, 09:05:39 AM »

Well I know what you mean but it varies from one area to the other.  I have always not liked salesman because there usually peddling the latest miracle to the masses of unducated folks in eastern ky whether its a new vacuum or the latest Amish heater

Many people tend to shy away from any form of salesman here, so my whole approach is to be who I am and don't worry about the professional appeal thing all that much, many folks buy from me locally simply because when I showed up at there place I was in jeans and a tshirt and the other guy was in a business shirt, it makes some uncomfortable and when I'm true to myself they just feel at ease
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2013, 02:48:36 PM »

We are not so different, I have long black and grey hair with a full beard, If my hands are dirty at a show from working then so be it at least it's clean dirt.
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2013, 07:10:19 AM »

I have a Hardy H4, so I don't think I can talk about effiency, but I do know that last year after putting in some real good insulated pex I went from burning about 18 cords a year with a H2 down to about 7 cord. That is heating a 3500 sq foot house and a 1500 sq foot shop.
Have not paid a penny for hot water or heat to the electric co. 
Right now I am filling it up once a week to keep the water hot.  Just wish I could use it for ac.

Wood is not a issue, I have 120 acres and my father in law has over 300 that joins me. I can't even begin to keep up with just  cleaning up dead trees.  Never have to cut a live one for at least 200 years at the rate I am going....
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2013, 07:29:19 AM »

Where do you live Georgia? I guess with those numbers I would not complain either, congratulations on the new pipe, it does make a big difference especially in a wet ditch doesn't it. I used the cheap stuff when I put my boiler in 10 years ago and replaced it 2 years later with, Logstor/ Urecon, what a difference! I do wish that the Feds would get their heads out of their butts on the testing though as I do believe that the efficiancy ratings are something that the public should be aware of and it seems the Gov. is just throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks, this avenue only costs manufacturers lots of money and then that cost has to get passed on to the customer, no wonder the EPA approved units are so much more expensive.
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2013, 10:29:23 AM »

I am in S E Missouri.

I don't see how wood boilers can really be tested, it seems like there are too many variables in the fuel.  Green, dry, rotten, pithy. oak ash elm cherry etc...
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2013, 12:57:22 PM »

Exactly, you obviosly have a good setup, keep up the good work
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2013, 03:52:28 PM »

There not tested with firewood as you know it usually.  Often times it's a manufactured wood product that has a known btu value
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2014, 11:47:01 AM »

How are they gonna enforce Phase 2 if they aren't really sure if their tests are 500% accurate or 500% inaccurate?
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2014, 06:41:28 AM »

Why don't the epa regulate volcanoes and what they spit out? That would give them a full time job, and get them out of our lives
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Re: EPA orders Central Boiler to pull efficiencies from its models
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2014, 09:53:19 AM »

I am in S E Missouri.

I don't see how wood boilers can really be tested, it seems like there are too many variables in the fuel.  Green, dry, rotten, pithy. oak ash elm cherry etc...
If you are from S E Mo. you don't know what cold weather is. I love going to Branson on vacation but I know your winter is not even close to the winters in Wis. I'm old enough to  remember winters that were 30 below for a week straight. As for the gov. I would not trust one thing they told me. This is not the land of the free anymore. The gov. controls almost every aspect of your lives. Kind of like Hitler did in WW2.
Every company is out to make a buck, and they don"t care how they do it. 
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