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[slimjim]

Logstor, 567 feet per roll, order what you want, no junctions under ground, 1 inch inside diameter, run it above ground if you like and it will not melt the snow, never had a failure with it and I have no Idea how many thousands of feet that I have installed, I will not use anything else!

[Farmer85]

Yep, I am kicking myself now, it's not even the digging back up part or the 2 days I spent raking my yard out and planting grass. It's the 1200 dollars I spent on shi@. Again I expected a bit more heat loss. Truth is wood is free and I thought for twice the price even if the heat loss is 20% more, which I doubt, wood is free. Having said that with a line full of water it's about 80% more and 1200 dollars gone.  Earth won't even return a call. I at least would like to let somebody know they are screwing people over, it would Sure make me feel better. But for now I drained it out in my crawl space, which I hate but at least my efficiency went way back up. I was burning 5-6 wheelbarrow loads of solid wood a day in 40-50* weather.  Not cool. And just to reiterate on this, my earth stove is great so far and if you look at the piping from there aspect. They have no idea how it was installed or how rocky the ground is. It's just a shame I'm the victim.

[chaikwa]

I looked at Earth products and really liked them. The reason I went with a Hawken is because they are manufactured locally, about 60 miles north of where I live here in Michigan. I wanted to know if I had a problem with my OWB, and they weren't willing to work with me to resolve it, or worse yet, failed to return my calls, I could haul it back up there and put it thru their office window! It wouldn't get me my money back but it would sure make me feel a lot better!

[Sluggo]

Scott,I will be putting in a little over 150' of line in the spring,how much to ship to Wisconsin?  After reading these horror stories I'm sold on the logstor.  Let me know.

[cantoo]

Farmer, are you telling me you didn't read my thread or look at the pics? Your tile looks a little heavier but the insulation on it is not even remotely acceptable. At least the pipe from the Amish guy was a bubble wrap type. There is no way that fiberglas insulation can work in any kind of damp let alone wet environment. I would just run the logstor on the ground until spring. Or run temporary lines using 4" plumbing pipe and foam pipe wrap insulation above ground.
http://outdoorwoodfurnaceinfo.com/forum/index.php?topic=4078.0

[Scott7m]

Scott,I will be putting in a little over 150' of line in the spring,how much to ship to Wisconsin?  After reading these horror stories I'm sold on the logstor.  Let me know.

Ill pm you....   

[slimjim]

Agreed Cantoo, wheres that darn like button!

[cantoo]

Reading this forum costs you next to nothing. Our advice here would have been worth a quick $1200 though. I suggest you do some more reading and you'll end up doing less spending and less cutting of wood. I read tons of threads long before I spent a nickel on my setup, so far so good too. I also think I saved a lot of money and got the most bang for my buck on what I did go with. There is also bad advice on forums too so you have to wade thru the crap. FYI, the Canadians can be trusted.

[slimjim]

Yes they can, they have never attacked us, we tried to attack them at least once and got our ars kicked, it's all history.