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[bajonesy77]

My e2400 has been running a month now. Great unit but why is my bypass door handle getting stiffer to open every day. I can't see behind the housing. Anyone have ideas?

Sounds like a problem to me, but you didn't have any problems right? We are here to share info and help each other not try to sell what brand we own as that's for each person to figure out on there own. Someone asks for an opinion then its cool to give yours but this post is not cool, not cool at all. For all you newbies looking for a stove go to the manufactures websites of all the stoves on this site, find things you like/dislike and do more research on the ones you like. Call the companies and ask questions, talk to owners but its about whats important to you..... their is no "one stove fits all". All the stoves listed on this site heat someone's home its up to you which one will heat yours. Keep warm people

[hondaracer2oo4]

Man you guys are all torqued up about this thread, lol. Brother likes his unit, lets just choke it up to a little pride in his purchase.

[CountryBoyJohn]

I was thinking the same Mr. Honda.  I think he was lovin on his stove, like we all do, he just didn't deliver his joy properly.  I don't want to say we've been too hard on him, except Mr. Franky1, but I'd like to think he really didn't mean that all other stoves are garbage.  But, my wife says I have too much of a tendency to give people the benefit of the doubt.  So, who knows.  Maybe if we haven't run him off, he'll clarify his comments. 

[jefito]

This is my comment on drpinard, I'm a newbie to the world of owb's, I did my research prior to buying  my portage and Maine BL 34/44.  I am glad I did, because this unit fulfills my every need. Initially I was all set to go with central boiler, I had read the forums, unfortunately I had not ran across this one. I don't know much, I'm just a simple guy. Though when I read of the problems associated with the central boiler line, coupled with the fact that the only central boiler dealer was 2 hours away and not to interested in returning phone calls, that was a red flag. The ultimate reason I went with P/M and not C/B was the fact that it appears that the manufactures of Central Boiler could give a damn about their product. Customer service is a term they have yet to conceive. Every thing I read about them was negative. Their response is contact your dealer, ( pass off the problem to some one else) even though they were responsible for what they engineered. Thanks to the dealers that carry the line.  Other wise they would recieve no help. To me P/M has a straight toward design,no computer board to go bad, my main concern. If and when I encounter a problem its seems like a straight toward repair. There are no P/M dealers in the southwest. The only issue I encountered was resolved by  Brian Martin of P/M. I called on a Saturday morning, Brian resolved the problem (bad pump) 2nd day air ups. Never once did I hear call your dealer, in a rude tone, as I have read over and over about Central Boiler. My only regret about P/M is that my Bl will out live me, and I'll have to come back to life. So I can buy a optimizer!!
Thanks guys

[bajonesy77]

Sorry folks, but CENTRAL BOILER is the only way to go. E2400 will eat the competition.

I think this line says it all! If the next newbie is from lets say Va. From where we don't have phase  2 regs. and lives in a 1600 sq.ft. ranch and doesn't cut his wood a year or two ahead of time and drives a car that cost less than this boiler is this the stove he needs? Its posted in a general discussion forum and we are discussing it. Could it have been said different? Sure maybe he will edit it to be more hes happy with his purchase and less about if you dont have that stove/company your stoopid.   

[racnruss]

Well he sure stirred things up in here.   Nothing like a little pot stirring to start the day:)

But, come back in 10 years and your story will hold more water.  (pun intended CB)

No, seriously, I personally like stories like heat550's, running the same boiler since 1996,  heatmor I believe.

chao dr.

[willowbk]

I can only imagine coming home at the end of the day and deciding to see if anyone bothered to reply to his post.
I'm sure he wont be expecting the powder keg that has been lite. staying tuned!!

[drpinard]

I really think this has gotten out of hand. Just a simple post about how happy I am. If you take that I'm bashing P&M I was making a statement about computer vs non computer. In my eyes I like it better. My post was in no means a personal slam slimjim. And no I'm not a DR. If you guys are really that upset then cancel my account with this forum. If not then read it and comment professionally

[hondaracer2oo4]

Pinard, I don't think that you were trying to be insulting to the rest of us. I think you just came across that way to some people. When people spend as much as they do on their outdoor wood boilers they can get a little defensive if they think that you are telling them that they made the wrong purchase. Same thing with those wierdo Chevy vs. Ford people. I have never really gotten that whole thing. Both manufacturers have their flaws and their strengths. Run whatcha Brung.

[AirForcePOL]

Same thing with those wierdo Chevy vs. Ford people

Hey! Come on Honda! I'm a Chevy guy! lol

[Scott7m]

So being happy with your purchase leads you to say it will eat the competition?

how do you know it will eat the competition?

what other brands do you have personal experience with to back such a bold statement?

How many years have you been involved with Wood furnaces?

If you can back up those questions with some actual experience it would def change how this entire thread was recieved.

I work with a lot of companies, not one stove do I carry will eat any of the competition, the truth is there are lots of good units, but no perfect units anywhere to be found. 

[bajonesy77]

Want to make this post funny?    Go back and read the original post but at the end of every sentence fill in -  "In bed"!  Its a classic......lol    example: E2400 will eat the competition. "In bed".

[chaikwa]

I really think this has gotten out of hand. Just a simple post about how happy I am. If you take that I'm bashing P&M I was making a statement about computer vs non computer. In my eyes I like it better. My post was in no means a personal slam slimjim.

No, I don't think it was a PERSONAL slam. I think it was an arrogant and generalized slam against everything and everybody that didn't have the make and model of OWB that you have, in essence proclaiming in an arrogant and condescending way that anyone who doesn't have your preference in OWB's to be of lower intellect than yourself.

... and comment professionally

Like you did?

If you guys are really that upset then cancel my account with this forum.

Works for me.

... the truth is there are lots of good units, but no perfect units anywhere to be found.

That's because I haven't made one yet! 

[slimjim]

Seriously drpinard, I would very much enjoy a spirited discussion about the comparisons of the 2 boilers and pricing, you see, Rick Young aka farmer for hire and I are old acquaintances, I have known Rick for years and never heard him say a bad word about any other boiler, not sure where you got your info but I would welcome the opportunity to debate you right here in the public regarding your unit and mine, what do you say, want to go for it.

[randy_1]

I have been running my P & M 250 since late September the only issue was a failed probe on the johnson a410 aquastat and low & behold I changed it myself in ten minutes. it was covered by warranty and my dealer who lives 3 hours away offered to come do it for me but it was so simple even a dumb car salesman like me could do it, I didn't need my brother who is a computer engineer to do it. I agree with most of you guys on here though. In the car business we have a statement it goes like this... there is an ass for every seat.... with that being said I drive a GMC my friend Slim drives a ford. they both satisfy our needs, heck some people even prefer Toyota or Honda's (why? i dont know) the point is i did my research for over 2 years before parting with my hard earned money (alot less than $14500 btw) I narrowed it down to two different boilers the central e2400 and the one I bought, and to be honest price was more on the central, but the real reason was the fact that the owner of the Company and the dealer both took an interest in educating me about the boiler I bought months before I bought it. They showed me what to expect during the lifetime of my boiler such as. Yes I will have to replace the nozel, yes I have to clean it every week or two, yes I have to burn quality wood, yes I may have to adjust the blower motor air flow depending on wood & load. yes I will have to replace it in years to come because it will most likely rust. however I do run it hot, 197 to be exact to hopefully keep the oxygen level in the water as low as possible. Sounds pretty laborious doesn't it?? well it is, but I enjoy it over writing $4000 checks every winter to the oil man. And best of all every one of these things I have to do to maintain my boiler, I can do them all myself with out the need for computer engineering degree. oh and did i mention my dealer answers my calls I don't have to chase him... the moral to my story is find a product you feel comfortable with, find a dealer you can rely on and bite the bullet.. life isnt cheap burn wood