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Re: Frustrated!!
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2014, 08:05:28 PM »

yes you are correct   125 foot one way

So 250 ft
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2014, 08:07:57 PM »

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Re: Frustrated!!
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2014, 08:38:41 PM »

Well how's it going? No do not even think of compression on boilers. They leak most of the time, if not now eventually. Just too much temp change and expansion etc.

Come on, you been reading and all while waiting for the install,, did or dint you calculate your head loss?

This is what makes you better than the average consumer and understand, if issues arise. Do you HX have head loss specs?  What size boiler do you have?  You could also put a bypass with balancing valve at the 20 plate. It will insure you get proper plate flow, while having more flow in the mainline.  Another option is to put a normally open full port or 1.25" zone valve in the bypass, so it's closed only when the water heater needs flow. This way you have full flow to the boiler, unless the WH needs it. Easy way to fix a flow concern if need be.
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Re: Frustrated!!
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2014, 05:39:06 AM »

No I did't calculate head loss. I was lazy and went with a higher hp and three speed pump.

Shame on me.
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Re: Frustrated!!
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2014, 06:04:24 AM »

Wissel, sometimes a phone call can help speed things up a great deal, at least to figure out what you are doing, Scott offered to help, why don't you give him a call?
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2014, 06:56:19 AM »

Yes I should call him slimjim.  I also got my aqauastat for the boiler.
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Re: Frustrated!!
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2014, 07:01:02 AM »

  good for you on both counts, sometimes it's a bit frustrating to put everything in print one piece at a time if you know what I mean. When you are ready to install the aqua-stat I will talk you through it on here so that others can grasp it as well.
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Re: Frustrated!!
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2014, 07:17:18 AM »

Okay slim I will
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Re: Frustrated!!
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2014, 07:18:31 AM »

I wish the site owner would make slim or Scott or someone an admin or atleast a little extra features. So they could have a stickies section for the most important topics. Like a nice wiring stats thread....etc. I haven't done much searching here but some sites search function stinks, or new uses don't use it.

Tekmar and taco have some real good diagrams with many examples. Short of color coding and doing it for you ,they are pretty easy.

Think of all your controls as just switches, either on or offs. They make or break.

And wissel, the right size pump can make a big difference. Take pride in your new unit, education is what can save or help the wood burning industry. If you did some good planning, you could be using a cheap $80-$100 pump. Is your ridgewood higher or lower than your cast iron boiler
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Re: Frustrated!!
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2014, 07:28:48 AM »

The OWB is higher than the boiler in the house.
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Re: Frustrated!!
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2014, 08:06:56 AM »

Thanks Scott!!
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2014, 09:25:42 AM »

I got the OWB hooked up and some of the inside work done yesterday. Plan on finishing the inside today. Then the cut in work will be done tomorrow. I hope to start it up Tuesday.

I got a question. If I want to put a unit heater in my attach garage. What would you suggest how to do it?

I will post pictures when up and running.
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2014, 09:31:05 AM »

I got the OWB hooked up and some of the inside work done yesterday. Plan on finishing the inside today. Then the cut in work will be done tomorrow. I hope to start it up Tuesday.

I got a question. If I want to put a unit heater in my attach garage. What would you suggest how to do it?

I will post pictures when up and running.

if its gonna be a rare use type setup id probably do a close t set up with zone pump that supplied it only after it called for heat off of the main loop
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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2014, 09:39:21 AM »

I would like to keep the garage at 60, so it would always be in use.
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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2014, 09:54:46 AM »

Well it could still work, but whenever you start to desigb a system like this, its why everything the system is gonna do needs to be laid out there.  That way we can assure enougg btu are available to supply all your needs.   

Its possible it will still work though, it may be a rare case wherre boiler, hot water,  and garage were all in use at once

But as a note for anyone reading this with plans of your own system, make sure you fully explain to your dealer what all your going to be doing.  Different components are needed for each situation, adding stuff later is possible but provisions nust be made from the start to allow it

Wissel, r u familiar with a close T ?
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