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[mtoll]

Im new to OWB. Have read all the good and bad reviews Just dont  know if the  CB Classic would be a better than a PM Gasser or CB Gasser. It looks like the gassers do not use as much wood. But have there issues with electronics. Any advice would help. I live in southern In and if I use a CB classic I have to use a 6048 because of EPA regs. The CB Classic would be over kill but dont know if that's a bad thing. 

[boilerman]

I've run both Central Boilers CL6048 and currently the E2400. Both great units, no problems with either. Greatly depends on how you want to burn. Gasser prefers more seasoned wood and smaller diameters but burns about 40% less wood. Gasser is about $2,500 or so more, which gets paid back in wood savings and labor in putting up wood. If comparing with other models, be sure to compare apples to apples...i.e. firebox size and water jacket gallons.

[mtoll]

What made you change to the E2400, how long have you used wood burners? I guess the CB is about as good as they come, I have a CB dealer and PM dealer near me. Thanks for your help
 

[CountryBoyJohn]

Where abouts in Indiana? I'm in Knox County. I was on the bubble between a "legal" conventional and a law required gasser. I really didn't want a gasser. PM me if you really really really want conventional that is less than 350,000 BTUs.

I ended up with a legal conventional and turns out I'm not oversized. Post your proposed load on here and we can tell if it will be too much. You can oversize some, but you can do too much. I'm at 3,000 actual Sft, plans to add 800 more Sft,  domestic water,  and hot tub. With my terrible insulation I'm sized right and super happy I was able to legally get a conventional in Indiana!

[mtoll]

I live Gibson county out in the country near Princeton. I have a pole barn style house 6in walls 14in in ceiling thought it was insulated good enough but my propane usage was near 300 gal last 5 weeks. I would love to use a CB 5036 think it would be the right size but was told its not  legal had to go to the 6048.  I think that a 6048 is over kill.  where did you get your unit ? Where I live my closet neighbor is 1/2 mile away. Do you have something for sale?     

[mtoll]

My house is about 3100 sq ft

[CountryBoyJohn]

PM sent. Nothing for sale. Just some insight on Indiana law I've covered before on other posts.

[boilerman]

mtoll, I only have 2,300 sq ft so am well oversized. Rarely fill much over half full unless -20 below for easy 24 hour burns in the 5648 Classic and also in the 2400Eclassic. Getting older so sold Classic to neighbor so I could burn less wood with Eclassic. I like the larger door of these models over the 5036 size too. More convenient loading.

[slimjim]

Boilerman, did we forget true stack exhaust temps and credibility of tests! or simple and available controls.

[CountryBoyJohn]

mtoll, I only have 2,300 sq ft so am well oversized. Rarely fill much over half full unless -20 below for easy 24 hour burns in the 5648 Classic and also in the 2400Eclassic. Getting older so sold Classic to neighbor so I could burn less wood with Eclassic. I like the larger door of these models over the 5036 size too. More convenient loading.

I would've guess that being oversized would be even worse with a gasser.  What is the BTU "rating" on the E2400? 

[mtoll]

BTU rating on the E2400 is 186,000 8 hr burn  125,000 BTU for 12 hr burn

[CountryBoyJohn]

Do you know what their peak 1-hour is?  I think this is what most manufacturers use.  This is also the threshold measurement for most of the EPA Phase II State Law language.   

[Scott7m]

I wouldnt get to caught up in the numbers games... 

[CountryBoyJohn]

No, not getting into numbers games. The 1 hour peak BTU output is how Indiana measures if the unit is considered an industrial unit or residential. That threshold is 350,000. It is basically the standard unit of measure, even though the actual number is crap. They just have to go from something. I actually like the theory behind how central lists their numbers, but the 8 and 12 times don't hold water to the letter of the law. I was just trying to see how oversized he would be with those 2 units since they really don't give square foot ratings either.

[Scott7m]

No, not getting into numbers games. The 1 hour peak BTU output is how Indiana measures if the unit is considered an industrial unit or residential. That threshold is 350,000. It is basically the standard unit of measure, even though the actual number is crap. They just have to go from something. I actually like the theory behind how central lists their numbers, but the 8 and 12 times don't hold water to the letter of the law. I was just trying to see how oversized he would be with those 2 units since they really don't give square foot ratings either.

I know but I just meant all rating are usually exaggerated.  But your right in regard to laws