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Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« on: February 20, 2014, 08:24:18 PM »

I would like to hear from some people that have burned in a conventional and then moved to a gasser  in relation to how much less wood they go through now. Also what stove you burned in before and now.
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2014, 08:29:23 PM »

Good system piping also plays a role. A zoned system would show the benefits of a gasser better than the single loop brochure method.

I don't think its fair to compare all gassers, cuz there are some conventionals that make some gassers look like a tank on a campfire with gravity feed.
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2014, 09:13:07 PM »

Lots of variables here

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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2014, 09:22:17 PM »

I was looking at a gasser but that's a bit of a jump if I dont have to have an epa stove
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2014, 05:03:06 AM »

As a general rule a good gasser will burn 30- 45% less wood but it also needs to be run properly, conventionals are much more forgiving.
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2014, 07:22:59 AM »

As a general rule a good gasser will burn 30- 45% less wood but it also needs to be run properly, conventionals are much more forgiving.

That's the thing slim, I've seen a LOT of folks get darn near same efficiency out of a well designed conventional because they didn't take proper care of wood, or perhaps had bridging issues and never learned from them, let tubed stay to dirty... 

Darn epa
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2014, 07:23:23 AM »

Seems the conventionals just have proven track records and not everyone has the gassing control and design down pat yet. I believe with. The new regs, we might see lambda controls and larger volume of water to bring up efficiency rates. Lambda is about the only way to control the entire burn process, and for what some already charge for their boilers , they should already be included. There are a few that have retrofitted some of their own home brew lambda controls, with Bosch oxygen sensors , variable fan or damper, and programmable radio shack electronic DIY kits.

You might see two piece design and built in primary secondary so the boiler never sees water below range, lots of options for the bean counters to figure out. Just can't wait for the next president, and closing of about 7 major govt agencies. It will be the only way to turn around quickly.....
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2014, 08:07:45 AM »

There used to be a song back when I was young, MEET THE NEW BOSS      SAME AS THE OLD BOSS   

You sure are optimistic Sprinter, I truly am sorry for what my generation has allowed these bufoons to do to THESE UNITED STATES
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2014, 09:06:11 AM »

I haven't done that test of gasser vs. standard. But if I could, I would.   I live in town.  Spent the last week at the in-laws.  They have well insulated ranch with a hardy boiler.  It is sooooo easy compared to a my gasser.  We even cut down a couple live pine trees that my M in Law didn't like and just started putting some in with the split wood.   That dang door on the hardy is too small:)



I believe from this point forward on this thread the initial question of gasser vs. standard boiler is lost.
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2014, 05:56:06 PM »

There used to be a song back when I was young, MEET THE NEW BOSS      SAME AS THE OLD BOSS   

You sure are optimistic Sprinter, I truly am sorry for what my generation has allowed these bufoons to do to THESE UNITED STATES

I don't think I would make a blanket statement like that. The country is still 85-90% red! it's just those very irritating small blue spots that love to spread their misery on everyone else. They aren't happy unless everyone is as miserable and as whinney as they are.
Reminds me of the recent Duck Dynasty fiasco, a very small number of nut jobs got their panties all bunched up over words,  someone's opinion or statement. I'm glad it was fixed without some BS apology to please some morons (to stupid to turn the channel or not read the article) hurt feeeeewwwings. It's amazing how riled up some get about other peoples biz. No wonder soo many flee the city to get away from idiocy.  Can you tell I'm a real sensitive person myself. More like John Wayne attitude.
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2014, 06:26:57 PM »

Yes to all that but you didn't address the statement. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. If the right wing really stood for something more that we can see out of the likes of John BONER, John McCain, and Mitt the nitwit then possibly we could start to swing the pendulum in the other direction but the GOP will never allow someone of real integrity to take that step, there is way to much money to be made for them to allow the likes of a Rand Paul!
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2014, 07:28:10 PM »

WOW well said SlimJim !!
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2014, 07:44:09 PM »

Just like the silencing of Ron Paul. How many votes did he get that the GOP didn't count, or wouldn't announce? Another problem is that many people have given up and just try to choose between the lesser of "TWO" evils.
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2014, 04:07:42 AM »

They say that if you don't vote for one of two parties, your vote will be lost. But if enough of us vote Paul like people, it will make a difference.
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Re: Conventional to gasser wood consumption reduction
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2014, 05:19:01 AM »

Here is where we went wrong in this country in my opinion, long winded and I'm sorry for it but it starts with a bit of history. My mother in law is now 86 years old, she is 100% German, born in Wiesbaden and until she met my father in law and moved here as a young woman, she and her family were registered Nazi's that wholeheartedly supported Hitler, her explanation for this is that the man took a 3'rd world country and turned it into a world power in a few short years, all of a sudden they had food,money and a much more desirable life, they at that point trusted their leaders, when she finally found out the real costs associated with Hitlers success she cried and could not believe what her country and it's leaders had done. My father in law( God Rest his soul) I sure do miss him, He was an old time Democrat and we used to have brutal arguments about politics at the kitchen table, pounding our fists on the table and the whole deal, this would upset the whole household but we respected one another's opinions enough that when we were done we could stand up and give each other a hug. My father in law met my mother in law because he was there fighting against the Hitler cronies and thank God he helped create my wonderful wife, he deserved his opinion and he would stand for it until the day he passed on, We loved to argue Politics and if he saw this country today I believe he would make his opinions known to all. the whole point of all this rambling is to say that if you bury your heads in the sand and don't talk to one another, nothing will ever get solved, talk to your neighbors, friends and family about the direction the country is heading, you will gain lots of respect for one another and possibly solve some problems yourself, That is a libertarian way of doing things and it works, If we had not had those brutal discussions then neither of us would have gained that mutual respect that we have to this day.
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