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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #60 on: April 28, 2014, 04:13:07 AM »

Try the Spray nine product to clean it first.
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #61 on: April 28, 2014, 05:28:51 AM »

I gotta look stuff up is that a cleaner or lube slim?
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #62 on: April 28, 2014, 05:31:01 AM »

Smoke and Creosote cleaner that  does not harm the paint.
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #63 on: April 28, 2014, 05:32:39 AM »

Thanks Slim!
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #64 on: April 28, 2014, 10:31:25 AM »

The cost of fix kits are the least of the manufacturers concerns, it is the bad press that they cause that gets expensive, is that stuff available in small quantities that we might be able to try some on a small scale. Perhaps Scott could speak with the manufacturer to see if they would have any objection? Maybe we could start a forum fund to pay for the experiment, voluntary of course with no government subsidies, I would be in, any others, say 20 bucks each share.

If we could get stuff like that in small quanities id def be in on it.  Im sure Eric would like to give it a try as well

Ok so here is what I got from AREMCO after I explained that it was a highly corrosive area on an OWB these were two of the products recommend prices and such.

 You can order direct thru our New York facility because we do not have any distributors in the US.

The minimum order quantity for these items is one pint. Please note that they are classified as Hazardous Materials and must ship in a special container that costs $20.00 each.

Following is a quotation:

Item A, Corr-Paint CP4010-S1, 1 Pint @ $92.00/pint, 1 Quart @ $150.00/quart Item B, Corr-Paint CP4000-S1, 1 Pint @ $92.00/pint, 1 Quart @ $150.00/quart Item C, Hazardous Packaging Fee, $20.00/container

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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #65 on: April 28, 2014, 05:13:31 PM »

I use the cleaning tool for a drill.
I ment the tubes inside the air box chamber for the draft fan. IIRC I seen 3 tubes. I think that cleaner would work well in the air box. I need to get some.
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« Reply #66 on: April 28, 2014, 06:16:29 PM »

for the vertical tube I used the brush.  for the horizontal ones I removed the bricks and cleaned them out with a vacuum.
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #67 on: April 30, 2014, 07:49:36 PM »

I would start by having a good healthy conversation with corporate, threats of lawsuits and lawyers does no good as you can see from the guy in PA, I wish we could have swung by to see him on our way back but with the posts that he made as well as the PM's that I received I thought better of getting involved, this is as you know a great place to come for ideas and answers but constructive conversations will get you much further than lawyers, let's all put our heads together and see if we can come up with a solution to their problem, I think having a beer is a great start then a PM to Scott7m might help, he has some difficult stuff going on right now so please be patient and I'm sure he will be happy to help. What am I looking at in the picture? Is that the air box that we see?

Welcome to the club ecc_33. Hope you get a quick resolution.

Slimjim just happen to catch this post. I find it interesting. As I recall. I called you and said "thanks for offering to come. But there is no need for it"
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #68 on: May 01, 2014, 03:24:22 AM »

Yes I did spyder, please try to put yourself in my position, i represent a totally different company, a direct competitor, involving myself and our corporate office in any lawsuits would simply not be a smart move would it! I am hoping that you follow what is being said on this thread and can get your issue resolved, I think we are onto something with the coatings.
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #69 on: May 01, 2014, 06:12:26 PM »

without starting with a brand new boiler or cutting that metal off the fire box and welding a new blower box on i honestly feel you will never get all that stuff clean enough to get a epoxy or a painted on substaints to stick to the walls. The holes are just to small on my boiler to get it that clean imho.
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #70 on: May 01, 2014, 06:17:04 PM »

without starting with a brand new boiler or cutting that metal off the fire box and welding a new blower box on i honestly feel you will never get all that stuff clean enough to get a epoxy or a painted on substaints to stick to the walls. The holes are just to small on my boiler to get it that clean imho.

Ive seen them have damage that far up, its always back next to the cool fan
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #71 on: May 01, 2014, 06:42:38 PM »

can a new box be welded on Scott, will they supply it? I tried calling you a few minutes ago, now is a good time!
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #72 on: May 01, 2014, 09:50:48 PM »

can a new box be welded on Scott, will they supply it? I tried calling you a few minutes ago, now is a good time!

perhaps, ill have to see what corporate says
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #73 on: May 28, 2014, 05:40:18 PM »

I took all the fire brick out of the stove monday and cleaned it all out. Air passages looked good and had hardly anything in them!
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