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[kommandokenny]

Hey boiler,, did you buy it through my almost son in law
[Emlaw]

Or where bouts??? cause when I hit 85  I may have to buy some

[Sluggo]

A cull log,like someone said is not desirable for a mill. All that means is that it's a little crooked,dead,or maybe has a hollow spot.  You guys are awful tough on a guy that buys wood.  Even if it's a wash between oil and buying wood,at least the guys money is staying local.  I don't see farmers coming on here asking why you buy your food.  It's no different,not everyone is lucky enough to have our own woods,skidsteers,attachments,four wheelers,dump trucks,chainsaws,trailers,trucks and whatever else.  Hell,I have a cousin who can't even run a chainsaw and he burns wood!  It's not up to us whether someone's choice to heat their family with wood is right or not.  Give them a few years and who knows,maybe they will be the ones answering our questions!  Keep on trying guys

[kommandokenny]

I buy 9 bush cords of maple logs for $1100, delivered right to my boiler and it lasts about 1 1/4 seasons. Contrast that with fuel oil, - 4 tanks a year at $1000 each tank. That is a huge saving, and still a lot less work, for me, than falling, limbing and transporting wood to the house. 
I built my system for about $6,000. The payback was less than 2 years. It's been gravy ever since.

Phoned next door neighbour,, 1.5 miles away
He sells Maple logs ,sugar and red, for 150 @ bush cord.
With these great prices I would not break even for 10 years,,, never mind the splitter,, extra saw,, baby sitting,financing, boiler etc.etc.
I meant this wood buying scenario was not good for me .
I'm glad everyone is happy that they buy their wood.
Any savings is a help !!

[mlappin]

Given that all lumber around here is already bought before it's ever dropped, what exactly is a "bush" cord?

[kommandokenny]

3 face cords. = 1 bush cord or real cord

Although there is no such thing as a face cord it is still sold this way, especially retail.
in smaller batches...

1 face cord is 4' x 8' by 16"
Bush cord or real cord is as you know 4x8x4'

I think the face cord thing,, arose, sorta like the new weekly lease, on a new car .
To the untrained eye it seems cheaper???
Ford F150 Lease for $199                                       a week

[kommandokenny]

yes the cord thing is back "slugger"

and......it's never gonna go away

[JTS717]

With the low prices of natural gas and the high prices of firewood I don't think I am saving any money by burning wood.  I was traveling for work this winter and my gas bill was $15 for the six days my furnace ran ( kept the house at same temp as with the OWB since I have someone renting from me), which by my math would be $75/month but lets just say $100/mo to cover the extra cold days.  I heat for 6 months which would be $600/year.  All the wood I burn I cut off my land or county land.  I also buy semi loads for $100/cord which I split and season.  I sell that for $200-230/cord. If I burn through 5-6 full cords of seasoned hardwood like I am on track to burn through this year I could sell that for $1200. 

Here's the problem: I like burning wood and enjoy not having to rely on the gas company.  I also feel much better when I go to crank up the thermostat knowing it will only cost me a couple more pieces of wood.  This year is an exception since gas is unusually low and firewood prices are high.  I am also only heating 1600 Sqft.

[kommandokenny]

You will be glad your burning wood when oil and other energy goes back up.
You like the wood experience .
I think you kinda hit it, for a lotta people, on here.
I enjoy cutting wood ,the exercise,, etc....I would not get that watching the propane needle go down.
 

[Jwood]

I don't mind burning wood but I can tell you if I had Natural gas available at my house I would have never invested over 10k for my boiler and installation. I would have a brand new ECM furnace, they are amazing!

[Sluggo]

Very true,natural gas is a whole new ballgame!

[kommandokenny]

10- 4 Woody.
We were on Nat Gas in Mississauga and paid less than $1000 cnd./year, to heat a 1500 square ft house + basement and the hot water. ++ 3 WOMEN RIDING THE HOT WATER TANK !
Old crap furnace to boot. not efficient.

THATS ABOUT $750 US

[kommandokenny]

I don't mind burning wood but I can tell you if I had Natural gas available at my house I would have never invested over 10k for my boiler and installation. I would have a brand new ECM furnace, they are amazing!

Yup and if you had nat gas at your door ....you would be in the city or [town] bad tradeoff

[CRJR]

With the low prices of natural gas and the high prices of firewood I don't think I am saving any money by burning wood.  I was traveling for work this winter and my gas bill was $15 for the six days my furnace ran ( kept the house at same temp as with the OWB since I have someone renting from me), which by my math would be $75/month but lets just say $100/mo to cover the extra cold days.  I heat for 6 months which would be $600/year.  All the wood I burn I cut off my land or county land.  I also buy semi loads for $100/cord which I split and season.  I sell that for $200-230/cord. If I burn through 5-6 full cords of seasoned hardwood like I am on track to burn through this year I could sell that for $1200. 

Here's the problem: I like burning wood and enjoy not having to rely on the gas company.  I also feel much better when I go to crank up the thermostat knowing it will only cost me a couple more pieces of wood.  This year is an exception since gas is unusually low and firewood prices are high.  I am also only heating 1600 Sqft.

It cost me more than $15.00 a day to heat my 1200sq. Shop. not including the 1300sq ft. House and hot water

[JTS717]

KK you hit it right on the head! I probably shouldn't advertise it too much but most of you don't know where I  live and wouldn't turn me in anyways.  I am running my boiler on my 0.24 acre lot in a city of about 1500 people.  I haven't had any complaints from any neighbors.  I am also burning seasoned hardwood in a gasser.  I found a good deal on my boiler and only really bought it for my next house but since I have it I decided to hook it up.

[kommandokenny]

Do you have property were you cut wood?