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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2018, 01:01:58 PM »

Yes, was connected directly into the boiler system in the house.
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2018, 07:04:45 PM »

Is the underground loop being constantly circulated to and from the plate? I was going to do this with mine this year but haven't yet had the time, the thought being to save the ground loss from constant circulation. According to my math, even with Logstor, I have a constant 12,000 BTU ground loss. If I can cut to 12 hours by only circulating during heat call (glycol in the underground) it adds up to almost 2 cord a year. Likely even more, as I have considerable solar gain on sunny days. Could easily go 12 hours with no call for heat some days
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2018, 08:07:17 PM »

Yes, it is circulating constantly but would probably make sense not to. I wanted to do as little as possible in the house since it was kind of cobbled setup but working fine. I did replace one leaking compression fitting in the house with a crimp fitting but otherwise left it as is.


How many feet of Logstor do you have? that sounds like a lot of heatloss.
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2018, 11:30:12 PM »

175 feet of Logstor, 3 degree round trip loss. 8 GPM makes right at 12k and was measured with the bucket/return line test. Seems reasonable. Buried about 18" and have a melted path with shallow snow
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2018, 04:56:51 AM »

Just did this G400 the other day. House and shop, 3 air handlers in the shop, one in the house.
Just fired the first time when this pic was taken. Cleared up in less than an hour and gassed beautifully.
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2018, 09:35:18 PM »

175 feet of Logstor, 3 degree round trip loss. 8 GPM makes right at 12k and was measured with the bucket/return line test. Seems reasonable. Buried about 18" and have a melted path with shallow snow
I wonder why it is losing so much heat. Is there any chance it split open like what happened to someone's Thermopex here a couple years ago?
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2018, 06:13:08 PM »

175 feet of Logstor, 3 degree round trip loss. 8 GPM makes right at 12k and was measured with the bucket/return line test. Seems reasonable. Buried about 18" and have a melted path with shallow snow
I wonder why it is losing so much heat. Is there any chance it split open like what happened to someone's Thermopex here a couple years ago?

"So much heat"? Pretty standard for Logstor. It's been that way since new and every other install I've done around here with Logstor, Thermopex, or Rehau is about the same; relative to distance. Heavy clay with a water table that's in the topsoil, it wicks more than dry sand would
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2018, 02:34:44 AM »

Just did this G400 the other day. House and shop, 3 air handlers in the shop, one in the house.
Just fired the first time when this pic was taken. Cleared up in less than an hour and gassed beautifully.

Do you ever have issues with that wrapped pipe? man that crap scares me.....

Install looks good!
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2018, 06:18:52 AM »

No, we haven't. We don't get the ponding water during spring thaw, and the hilly land helps too. The Z supply pipe is better quality than some too I think.
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2018, 06:31:30 AM »

Why don't you use end caps on it? I have seen leaking fittings (usually push type) let water run down the pipe and into the insulation.
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2018, 06:38:58 AM »

Good thought there. I should do that.
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2018, 04:31:15 PM »

Just did this G400 the other day. House and shop, 3 air handlers in the shop, one in the house.
Just fired the first time when this pic was taken. Cleared up in less than an hour and gassed beautifully.

Do you ever have issues with that wrapped pipe? man that crap scares me.....

Install looks good!

We’ve installed tens of thousands of feet of drainage tile over the years, the single wall from Z-supply is heavier than anything you’ll ever find at Lowes, Menards or TSC.
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2018, 07:50:22 PM »

I would like to know where to find the silver foam wrap, just the insulation only, if I wanted to make my own.
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2018, 05:34:57 AM »

? Badger might sell it to you. But it's not listed in their catalog. I dunno. I don't have their # but it's online.
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Re: 2018 HeatMaster install pics
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2018, 05:56:45 AM »

I would like to know where to find the silver foam wrap, just the insulation only, if I wanted to make my own.

I'm not sure what product Badger uses but you see a similar type of insulation used in a lot of barns and metal buildings, google double bubble insulation.

Probably not exactly the same stuff but that search should turn up what you are looking for.

I've used a couple million square feet of another type (Solarguard) but it has 1/4" of fiberglass between the outer facings, instead of plastic bubbles or some kind of foam.

Got my 5-wrap from Badger and ran it inside of some 6" SDR35 bell-end pipe, buried over and under with 1" clean crushed limestone, it's been working well for 5 years now.
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