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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: standard questions...
« on: January 06, 2009, 05:25:17 AM »
1. I have a Central Boiler 6048.
2. 24hrs+ I add a couple sticks twice a day, but have let it go as long as 36 before I got nervous the fire would go out.
3. I stuff it, just as much as I can get in there.
4. Burning broken pallets when I can get them. Most of my wood is between 5-10years old, softwood, been sitting on the ground and is very wet.
5. No floor lines.
6. 2100 sq ft.
7. {Edited to add that I also heat all my DHW}
8. 4 year old double wide trailer. Very well insulated. Custom skirting, pressure treated stud wall covered with pressure treated 1/2" plywood, then tyvek and matching vinyl.
2. 24hrs+ I add a couple sticks twice a day, but have let it go as long as 36 before I got nervous the fire would go out.
3. I stuff it, just as much as I can get in there.
4. Burning broken pallets when I can get them. Most of my wood is between 5-10years old, softwood, been sitting on the ground and is very wet.
5. No floor lines.
6. 2100 sq ft.
7. {Edited to add that I also heat all my DHW}
8. 4 year old double wide trailer. Very well insulated. Custom skirting, pressure treated stud wall covered with pressure treated 1/2" plywood, then tyvek and matching vinyl.
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Central Boiler / Re: Happy or not?????
« on: December 23, 2008, 03:37:47 AM »
I would say that I am EXTREMELY Happy so far!
I am running a CB 6048 heating a 2100sq.ft. Mobile Home. The house is only about 4 years old and very well insulated. Has a custom skirting (pressure treated plywood and a full stud wall covered with tyvek and siding.)
I started running mid-may to run DHW and learn how to run the boiler. I heated all my hot water on trash wood, branches, scraps etc...
I add wood to the boiler twice a day. But I could prob run close to 48 hrs on a full load before the fire would go out. I only add 2-3 junk logs a day.
The wood I am burning is 6-7 years old, been laying on the ground and is mostly softwood.
I am glad I got the bigger model so that I can burn longer runtimes if I need to. Also glad I have the older model and not the E-Classic. I doubt the E-Classic could burn the rubbish I go through. This boiler has saved me from having lots of brush fires to get rid of brush, instead allowing me to burn it in the boiler and getting hot water out of the deal.
I would say I am Extremely Happy.
I am running a CB 6048 heating a 2100sq.ft. Mobile Home. The house is only about 4 years old and very well insulated. Has a custom skirting (pressure treated plywood and a full stud wall covered with tyvek and siding.)
I started running mid-may to run DHW and learn how to run the boiler. I heated all my hot water on trash wood, branches, scraps etc...
I add wood to the boiler twice a day. But I could prob run close to 48 hrs on a full load before the fire would go out. I only add 2-3 junk logs a day.
The wood I am burning is 6-7 years old, been laying on the ground and is mostly softwood.
I am glad I got the bigger model so that I can burn longer runtimes if I need to. Also glad I have the older model and not the E-Classic. I doubt the E-Classic could burn the rubbish I go through. This boiler has saved me from having lots of brush fires to get rid of brush, instead allowing me to burn it in the boiler and getting hot water out of the deal.
I would say I am Extremely Happy.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Creosote Sweeping Log
« on: June 21, 2008, 06:12:04 PM »
Has anyone ever used one of these in an OWB? Would this be a good idea to burn one every couple months? My dealer gave me a powder to put on the walls once a week to reduce the creosote acid. Was just curious if this would also be beneficial??
Meant to add this.
http://www.shop.com/+-a-creosote+log-p43734539-k36-st.shtml
That is what I am referring to.
Meant to add this.
http://www.shop.com/+-a-creosote+log-p43734539-k36-st.shtml
That is what I am referring to.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Burning Wood Chips??
« on: June 16, 2008, 05:10:26 AM »
I am still experimenting with my boiler. (Central Boiler 6048). I am running it year round to heat DHW and it is working great. I throw in some junk wood and small chunks. If I put in a good load it lasts well over a week just running the DHW. I live alone and take at least one shower a day, do a load of laundry once a day, and run a dishwasher at least once a week.
My question is does anyone burn wood chips? I cut my own wood and get left with alot of branches, I can burn them but it is a pain to cut them small enough and trying to move them, then cram them into the boiler.
I would love to get a self-feed wood chipper and have the output discharge into storage bags. (I can get mussel bags or sometimes called onion bags.) This would allow air through the bag and for easy handling. The bags could be laid out in the summer to season and then stacked and covered in the winter.
I really want to do this and think that it would work, but don't want to spend the money until I know for sure. I can rent the chippers, but the discharge needs to be modified to hold the bag, I work alone and can't do both.
Thanks, does this sound feasible?
My question is does anyone burn wood chips? I cut my own wood and get left with alot of branches, I can burn them but it is a pain to cut them small enough and trying to move them, then cram them into the boiler.
I would love to get a self-feed wood chipper and have the output discharge into storage bags. (I can get mussel bags or sometimes called onion bags.) This would allow air through the bag and for easy handling. The bags could be laid out in the summer to season and then stacked and covered in the winter.
I really want to do this and think that it would work, but don't want to spend the money until I know for sure. I can rent the chippers, but the discharge needs to be modified to hold the bag, I work alone and can't do both.
Thanks, does this sound feasible?
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Central Boiler / Re: Does your door drip?
« on: June 01, 2008, 04:10:41 PM »
Mine has stopped dripping now. I think it just needed to be broke in.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / What temp do you run your boiler at?
« on: June 01, 2008, 03:44:20 PM »
My Central Boiler came from the factory set at 185. I am going to run it all summer and have turned it down to 175 today. Is there any disadvantage to running lower temps? Will it cause significantly more creosote?
Thanks
Thanks
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Central Boiler / Re: $12,300!
« on: May 15, 2008, 03:30:45 AM »
Ok, I got my installation bill in the mail yesterday.
For the install, pipes heat exchangers, valves etc.. it was 2701.20
That brings my total to $10419.20.
The only thing that I have not added in that yours would need is the ditching. My guy dug my ditch in under 20 min. About 130 ft. Not sure what the cost would be. This was included in a quote for a much larger job.
I am hoping that the warranty is a good one. There are good and bad warranties. I have had good luck in the past, just stay with a quality product and the company will stand behind it.
I believe the spark arrestor is just the piece of "chicken wire" that is on the chimney cap. My dealer did not even install it, saying that they cause more trouble. Apparently they get clogged and cause the furnace to run poorly. This is just what he said, I figured if he installs them he should know a bit more about it than me.
For the install, pipes heat exchangers, valves etc.. it was 2701.20
That brings my total to $10419.20.
The only thing that I have not added in that yours would need is the ditching. My guy dug my ditch in under 20 min. About 130 ft. Not sure what the cost would be. This was included in a quote for a much larger job.
I am hoping that the warranty is a good one. There are good and bad warranties. I have had good luck in the past, just stay with a quality product and the company will stand behind it.
I believe the spark arrestor is just the piece of "chicken wire" that is on the chimney cap. My dealer did not even install it, saying that they cause more trouble. Apparently they get clogged and cause the furnace to run poorly. This is just what he said, I figured if he installs them he should know a bit more about it than me.
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Site Suggestions / Re: Different Message Board Software?
« on: May 13, 2008, 05:31:53 AM »
What are the major differences?
Free is always good.
I didn't vote because I really don't know the differences and have no opinion on which is better.
Thanks for creating a forum for OWB's.
Free is always good.
I didn't vote because I really don't know the differences and have no opinion on which is better.
Thanks for creating a forum for OWB's.
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Central Boiler / Does your door drip?
« on: May 13, 2008, 05:29:04 AM »
I burned some junk softwood that wasn't seasoned and the door dripped as the water was evaporated from the wood. I plan to use good wood whenever I can, was just experimenting with different woods to see the amount of smoke etc..
Is this normal, it doesn't seem to affect the furnace performance but leaves black water residue below the door.
Is this normal, it doesn't seem to affect the furnace performance but leaves black water residue below the door.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Grounding????
« on: May 13, 2008, 05:25:52 AM »
How many have installed a grounding rod to their boiler?
Mine does not have one but Central Boiler states that one should be installed. Just wondering if I really need to do it or not.
Mine does not have one but Central Boiler states that one should be installed. Just wondering if I really need to do it or not.
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Central Boiler / Re: bypassing the h/e today had a few questions.
« on: May 13, 2008, 05:24:18 AM »12
Central Boiler / Re: $12,300!
« on: May 13, 2008, 05:22:35 AM »
I will update with the total when the dealer sends me the install bill.
He said roughly $2000 and shouldn't be more than $2500.
Knowing my total before was $7718, the final figure should be somewhere between $9718 and $10218.
So I think you are definitely high.
And the 25 year warranty should not cost you anything extra, you just need to send in the paperwork with the boiler.
And I believe the spark arrestor is included at no extra cost as well.
He said roughly $2000 and shouldn't be more than $2500.
Knowing my total before was $7718, the final figure should be somewhere between $9718 and $10218.
So I think you are definitely high.
And the 25 year warranty should not cost you anything extra, you just need to send in the paperwork with the boiler.
And I believe the spark arrestor is included at no extra cost as well.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: What did you use?
« on: May 13, 2008, 05:18:04 AM »
I'm not super impressed with the piping my dealer ran.
He has blue styrofoam in two halves. When the two halves are put together it is about 6" square. Each half has a groove for the pex tubing, the supply and return pex are side by side
He duct-taped the styrofoam about every three feet and then put it in a heavy plastic sleeve to keep water from touching the pex.
It works well right now, won't know about how well in winter until well..... winter.
He stated it is $7.50/ft.
He has blue styrofoam in two halves. When the two halves are put together it is about 6" square. Each half has a groove for the pex tubing, the supply and return pex are side by side
He duct-taped the styrofoam about every three feet and then put it in a heavy plastic sleeve to keep water from touching the pex.
It works well right now, won't know about how well in winter until well..... winter.
He stated it is $7.50/ft.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Wiring question.
« on: May 13, 2008, 05:13:18 AM »
Thanks.
Was just installed this past Friday. The wiring is much simpler than I anticipated. There are the three wires on the boiler that you connect to your feed wire to the house. The circulator does not need wiring, there is a 120v receptacle in the boiler that the circulator plugs into.
I buried 2 12/2 underground rated wires to the boiler. One is just a spare, much cheaper that redigging the ditch.
Was just installed this past Friday. The wiring is much simpler than I anticipated. There are the three wires on the boiler that you connect to your feed wire to the house. The circulator does not need wiring, there is a 120v receptacle in the boiler that the circulator plugs into.
I buried 2 12/2 underground rated wires to the boiler. One is just a spare, much cheaper that redigging the ditch.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: i need help to bypass my heat exchanger for the summer
« on: May 13, 2008, 05:09:53 AM »
Hey
I just had my boiler installed and asked the dealer about adding a bypass. He installed something I think is even better.
He put a zone valve that runs off the the furnace thermostat. When the thermostat sends a signal to heat your house it also signals the valve to open to allow the boiler water to flow through the heat exchanger. When the thermostat sees that the temp is adequate it sends a signal to the furnace fan to stop and also sends a signal to the valve to close and bypass the heat exchanger.
I haven't gotten the install bill yet but I think the valve runs around $150 or less. I believe it is made by Taco, the same company that made my circulator.
If you are interested in this setup, check out
http://centralboiler.com/Tech/C150.pdf
Hope this helps.
I just had my boiler installed and asked the dealer about adding a bypass. He installed something I think is even better.
He put a zone valve that runs off the the furnace thermostat. When the thermostat sends a signal to heat your house it also signals the valve to open to allow the boiler water to flow through the heat exchanger. When the thermostat sees that the temp is adequate it sends a signal to the furnace fan to stop and also sends a signal to the valve to close and bypass the heat exchanger.
I haven't gotten the install bill yet but I think the valve runs around $150 or less. I believe it is made by Taco, the same company that made my circulator.
If you are interested in this setup, check out
http://centralboiler.com/Tech/C150.pdf
Hope this helps.
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