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Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => Central Boiler => Topic started by: enoughproblems! on March 18, 2013, 06:24:08 PM
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This is just one of the many problems we have had with our boiler this year! We have looked it up in our book and it says that the problem is low water- causing the beeping reading on the monitor. My husband checked water level & it was full. but the beeping has not stopped. The comptuer is the newest part that we replaced, so we dont think its that ( it is our second computer in 3 years) Has this happened to anyone else? :bash: :bash:
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This is just one of the many problems we have had with our boiler this year! We have looked it up in our book and it says that the problem is low water- causing the beeping reading on the monitor. My husband checked water level & it was full. but the beeping has not stopped. The comptuer is the newest part that we replaced, so we dont think its that ( it is our second computer in 3 years) Has this happened to anyone else? :bash: :bash:
can't say i know anything about them..faulty sensor? have you tried pulling the fuse that runs the OWB for 10 or 15 seconds and see if the computer will reset?
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This is just one of the many problems we have had with our boiler this year! We have looked it up in our book and it says that the problem is low water- causing the beeping reading on the monitor. My husband checked water level & it was full. but the beeping has not stopped. The comptuer is the newest part that we replaced, so we dont think its that ( it is our second computer in 3 years) Has this happened to anyone else? :bash: :bash:
can't say i know anything about them..faulty sensor? have you tried pulling the fuse that runs the OWB for 10 or 15 seconds and see if the computer will reset?
Yes, It was left out for almost a mintue- didnt help
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I know someone that got 5 control panels in a row all 5 were junk putting out crazy numbers on the screen
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Johnny, I had mine give funny temp readings all over the place the other day after opening the cover which moved some wires. Turned out to be a bad connection with, Get this, a splice that I made to stop the beeping problem I had with my E2300.
enoughproblems- I like your name. I've felt much the same way with my CB 2300 over the last five years. I had what I believe to be the same problem with mine last year after ramming a crowbar against the bottom of the door frame while trying to break free a bad build-up of creosote against the back wall. I thought, OH crap!!!, what have I done?!?!. Called my dealer and explained what I did and he suggested bypassing the low-water float switch. That took care of it
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Johnny, I had mine give funny temp readings all over the place the other day after opening the cover which moved some wires. Turned out to be a bad connection with, Get this, a splice that I made to stop the beeping problem I had with my E2300.
enoughproblems- I like your name. I've felt much the same way with my CB 2300 over the last five years. I had what I believe to be the same problem with mine last year after ramming a crowbar against the bottom of the door frame while trying to break free a bad build-up of creosote against the back wall. I thought, OH crap!!!, what have I done?!?!. Called my dealer and explained what I did and he suggested bypassing the low-water float switch. That took care of it
I'll let my husband and father inlaw know when I talk to them. My father inlaw is going to call our dealer today ( they hate when he calls- he has point blankly told them it was the worst investment that we have ever made) My husband and I bought the old family farm from my inlaws- since we moved in 4 years ago, we have replaced the door ( the door fell completely off and onto the ground), the computer twice, many fuses- Im sure there are more that i've forgotten for a reason. It seem to be a money pit! When it works its amazing! heats our house and hot water.. but when it doent want to work... Its a huge pain in the butt!
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Johnny, I had mine give funny temp readings all over the place the other day after opening the cover which moved some wires. Turned out to be a bad connection with, Get this, a splice that I made to stop the beeping problem I had with my E2300.
enoughproblems- I like your name. I've felt much the same way with my CB 2300 over the last five years. I had what I believe to be the same problem with mine last year after ramming a crowbar against the bottom of the door frame while trying to break free a bad build-up of creosote against the back wall. I thought, OH crap!!!, what have I done?!?!. Called my dealer and explained what I did and he suggested bypassing the low-water float switch. That took care of it
I'll let my husband and father inlaw know when I talk to them. My father inlaw is going to call our dealer today ( they hate when he calls- he has point blankly told them it was the worst investment that we have ever made) My husband and I bought the old family farm from my inlaws- since we moved in 4 years ago, we have replaced the door ( the door fell completely off and onto the ground), the computer twice, many fuses- Im sure there are more that i've forgotten for a reason. It seem to be a money pit! When it works its amazing! heats our house and hot water.. but when it doent want to work... Its a huge pain in the butt!
Did you have the option to buy a conventional wood boiler at the time?
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Don't let this unit discourage you, maybe you can trade it in for another make, when these boilers work they are great.
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My inlaws bought it back in the winter of 08. They knew we were going to buy the old farm house from them & didnt want to have the wood stove in the house anymore with the little ones. We have had alot of problems with it since we have been here. Vavles not closing. Door falling off, computer dying twice fuse blowing multi times. I know that there are many other things that I dont remember off hand. oh- and the most recent one the beeping and ooo. My father inlaw came down today and hardwired it by passing the water sensor. The dealer ( who my father inlaw has told many times that its the worst thing that we've continued to sink money into) is never excited to hear its him on the other side. Central Boiler themselves have never been very helpful & at times downright rude. I personally love the boiler- or maybe the idea of it. It heats our house pretty well-when it works- and our water.- in the long run we spend a lot less on wood then oil etc, but all these problems tend to get old, even more so in the middle of winter!
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My inlaws bought it back in the winter of 08. They knew we were going to buy the old farm house from them & didnt want to have the wood stove in the house anymore with the little ones. We have had alot of problems with it since we have been here. Vavles not closing. Door falling off, computer dying twice fuse blowing multi times. I know that there are many other things that I dont remember off hand. oh- and the most recent one the beeping and ooo. My father inlaw came down today and hardwired it by passing the water sensor. The dealer ( who my father inlaw has told many times that its the worst thing that we've continued to sink money into) is never excited to hear its him on the other side. Central Boiler themselves have never been very helpful & at times downright rude. I personally love the boiler- or maybe the idea of it. It heats our house pretty well-when it works- and our water.- in the long run we spend a lot less on wood then oil etc, but all these problems tend to get old, even more so in the middle of winter!
Trade that cb for a Ridgewood Stove and you would have 20yrs of no worries.
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enoughproblems - Have you had trouble with primary air flow to the firebox??
From day one I don't think my 2300 was gassifying properly. Always has smoke even on warmer days when it shouldn't be visible (since the smoke should only be steam anyway). I know some of that was me trying to learn how to use it and the proper way to burn. I did find that my damper was not lined up properly and CB sent me a re-enforcment kit which seams to have helped that problem though it's hard to reach in there to properly align it so I know it is still not perfect and I have to let a buildup of creosot happen at the bypass damper to help seal the leak. That's one small problem I've had.
I had to replace the fusion combustor, that was another upgrade they did not charge me for. Even the replacement is showing signs of wear now after 3 years.
It eats through grate bars/pipes (even the new stainless ones that supposedly they tested under a torch for 8 months and they still looked new).
I'll need to replace the combustion chamber door before next season, the entire inner steal plate has rotted away and the insulation is diminishing.
Last year I had 2 water leaks and I expect more. I think I need to have a welder come in this year and re-line much of the firebox. I found quite a soft spot on the left hand wall that I know is getting thin. Plus I know a guy with the same unit that had to fix much of his right side wall for the same reason (both of us on season 4).
Replaced the draft fan last year.
Getting back to my question regarding the air channel, that has been my biggest problem that has plagued me since the beginning. The whole channel filled up with creosote and ash and as you know there is no way to get inside it to clean it out. Beyond that, the channel started to deteriorate. I had a welder fix it, I think on season 3 (we cleaned it out the best we could while it was cut open). By last year, the piece he replaced was almost completely gone leaving an even bigger gap. I said forget this. When the welder came in again we set up a new channel (based on my second boiler, Wood Doctor HE 10000) and we cut out the back portion of the air channel exposing the air inlet pipe from the back to which we inserted a piece of pipe and channeled the air to the top of the firebox and directed it to each side of the firebox to try to get even flow. That worked ok, better than what it was and I finished out the season. This year I came up with a new plan which has been almost flawless and requires very little attention. Most of all it's removable for cleaning if necessary (which I finally had to do the other day as one side stopped getting air flow). I'll attach some pics. If this is an issue for you then this is a very good and relatively easy and inexpensive fix at less than $150. It could probably be done cheaper yet by just using longer pipe with threaded ends and drilling holes in it.
One thing I've changed is the Tee at the inlet. In the pictures there is a bushing with I think a 1" hole so there was air blowing out there. This was done for a creosote drain. I've since removed the bushing and screwed in a nipple which rests just off the firebox floor. Ash builds around it and stops air from coming out and I get no more creosote build-up backing up to my inlet pipe/elbow where the solenoid/damper is. Overall, this makes for a much more user friendly atmosphere for me. Keep in mind, I use this thing very heavily at night. I have an extremely high demand overnight as I heat my home, domestic hot water, and 4 greenhouses. This takes both boilers and a pile of wood for me to accomplish. I will say that the 2300 uses less than 1/2 the amount of wood that the Wood Doctor does, esp. now that it's burning good and clean and hot the way it's supposed to.
Any questions, I'd be happy to help. I have the invoice showing all the parts I used and sizes if you or anyone else are interested.
Jeff
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