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Title: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: Gilks on February 03, 2015, 06:21:39 AM
Guys,

I bought a 30 plate bell & gossett heat exchanger for my domestic hot water. rated at 40,000 BTU. Is this big enough for an average sized house. Will it fill a whirlpool tub sufficiently?
Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: mlappin on February 03, 2015, 08:49:44 AM
As much as number of plates overall size also plays a large part. Is it a 5" x 12" or is it a smaller size physically?
Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: kommandokenny on February 03, 2015, 10:49:48 AM
I had a small 10 plate on my 40 gal tank and it was useless :o

Aic 10 plate 3x 7 inches my $#%&S was warmer

Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: Gilks on February 03, 2015, 11:07:11 AM
oh crap!!!! it's a 10 plate, B&G 400-10, dimensions are 3.1 wide and 8.2 tall. Honestly, am i screwed? If this thing will not fill up a decent sized whirlpool tub I am dead. other recommendations? Also, best place to buy?
Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: kommandokenny on February 03, 2015, 11:13:39 AM
I'm no expert but check this thread .

http://outdoorwoodfurnaceinfo.com/forum/index.php?topic=6915.0 (http://outdoorwoodfurnaceinfo.com/forum/index.php?topic=6915.0)


I use a side arm now .
You can use the 10 plate and plumb it into a side arm and have both going, that will work .
Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: RSI on February 03, 2015, 01:50:22 PM
Problem with 10 plates is they restrict the boiler water flow way too much. You can sometimes get by with them if you use a much larger pump than you should need but if you already need a large pump then you are out of luck.

It is only $150 for a 5x13 20 plate that is made in USA. I don't see the point in trying to use something smaller.
Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: slimjim on February 04, 2015, 02:50:25 AM
I totally agree with RSI on this one, why bother with something that you already know is marginal?
Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: U.P. Doug on February 04, 2015, 03:44:20 AM
I have the 20 plate that RSI is referring to. It works great, endless hot water. I put a bypass before it and installed boiler valves below the bypass so I can back flush the exchanger with a garden hose without taking it out.
Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: mlappin on February 04, 2015, 06:21:06 AM
Get yourself some combo units from supply house, can be had in sweat or threaded, units with a union built right in can also be had. By time you buy a couple separate valves, a tee, hose bib, etc it's hard to beat the price on them.

http://www.supplyhouse.com/Webstone-50614W-1-SWT-Webstone-PRO-PAL-Ball-Valve-w-Drain-Lead-Free (http://www.supplyhouse.com/Webstone-50614W-1-SWT-Webstone-PRO-PAL-Ball-Valve-w-Drain-Lead-Free)
Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: LittleJohn on February 04, 2015, 06:39:54 AM
 :post:
Get yourself some combo units from supply house, can be had in sweat or threaded, units with a union built right in can also be had. By time you buy a couple separate valves, a tee, hose bib, etc it's hard to beat the price on them.

http://www.supplyhouse.com/Webstone-50614W-1-SWT-Webstone-PRO-PAL-Ball-Valve-w-Drain-Lead-Free (http://www.supplyhouse.com/Webstone-50614W-1-SWT-Webstone-PRO-PAL-Ball-Valve-w-Drain-Lead-Free)
These valves maybe a tad more than other, but they save a TON of space  :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: kommandokenny on February 04, 2015, 07:11:21 AM
Hose end complies with ANSI B1.20.7

I take it you can slap a standard garden hose on this ??

http://www.supplyhouse.com/Webstone-50614W-1-SWT-Webstone-PRO-PAL-Ball-Valve-w-Drain-Lead-Free (http://www.supplyhouse.com/Webstone-50614W-1-SWT-Webstone-PRO-PAL-Ball-Valve-w-Drain-Lead-Free)

No way it comes with 1 in pex fittigs? ;D???
Some one will come up with it someday I guess
Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: mlappin on February 04, 2015, 08:16:48 AM
Hose end complies with ANSI B1.20.7

I take it you can slap a standard garden hose on this ??

http://www.supplyhouse.com/Webstone-50614W-1-SWT-Webstone-PRO-PAL-Ball-Valve-w-Drain-Lead-Free (http://www.supplyhouse.com/Webstone-50614W-1-SWT-Webstone-PRO-PAL-Ball-Valve-w-Drain-Lead-Free)

No way it comes with 1 in pex fittigs? ;D???
Some one will come up with it someday I guess

Garden hose or if your using a puddle pump use a washing machine hose as it will already have two female garden hose ends
Title: Re: 30 plate bell & Gossett heat plate big enough
Post by: kommandokenny on February 04, 2015, 09:11:07 AM
THANKS

Just want an emergency drain in case of pump failure.
Water could freeze at back of stove pretty quick here.

sorry for the side track guys

kk