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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: To go with Natural gas or keep Oil for backup?
« on: February 26, 2014, 01:02:58 PM »
How about burning the oil in a diesel engine if its going bad instead of the furnace. Get a new load of oil or just the minimum they will deliver.I had gas in my last home.Now we got oil and electric dhw and electric dryer. When we were selling our house and the gas was turned off we still got a bill from the gas company each month for a service charge to just have the gas so even shut off we still got a bill. Was less than 5 bucks but for what??? Gas was a lot cheaper to run everything than electric (not counting heat we had a wood stove)
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: indoor gasser woodgun 140
« on: February 26, 2014, 09:23:06 AM »
Has anyone bought these models
eco 40
Biomass 40
greenwood
If so how do they compare?
eco 40
Biomass 40
greenwood
If so how do they compare?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: indoor gasser woodgun 140
« on: February 25, 2014, 11:48:37 AM »
Looking at the econoburn 150 right now. Might be a good value and do the trick.. I called the wg factory in pa and was told dried pine would work fine in there stove.How is the econoburn for pine might have to load it a few more times since its fast to burn but its my prime sorce for wood. Also like the fact that the parts are not all electronic we like simple.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: indoor gasser woodgun 140
« on: February 25, 2014, 10:29:26 AM »
Here is the list from the dealer for the woodgun looks like's
everything is extra . Also looked into the empyre ellite pro series 200
Have to go with a gasser (town rules) Looks like around the same price 10k
Open to all ideas for these units. Will build a room outside for this only interested indoor model 's
Tired of carrying wood down to the basement. Was hoping to do everything for under 10k
445-001 E100SF $8,995.00
425-001 E140SF $9,995.00
415-001 E180SF $10,895.00
435-001 E250SF $13,895.00
WOODGUN OPTIONS
ASME CODE certification $600.00
ASME CODE with UL certification $1,200.00
Oil Backup with Automatic switchover and lockout fan delay pkg including oil chamber. $2,300.00
Oil Backup with Manual switchover and lockout fan delay pkg including oil chamber. $1,900.00
200-404 4 hr. cycle timer with on-off switch, factory installed $250.00
Low Temperature Shutdown $229.00
453-010 Smoke exhaust hood with 362 CFM blower (large capacity) $369.00
OPTIONS AND ACCESSORIES FOR ALL BOILERS
100-002 Domestic hot water coil, factory installed $298.00
200-411 Low Water Cutoff $259.00
200-891 $525.00
200-890 Swimming Pool Stainless Steel Canister (includes coil) $698.00
(prices subject to change without notice)
Wood Gun with Stainless Steel vessel Heats up to 3,000 sq ft
Wood Gun with Stainless Steel vessel Heats up to 4,500 sq ft
Wood Gun with Stainless Steel vessel Heats up to 6,000 sq ft
Wood Gun with Stainless Steel vessel Heats up to 10,000 sq ft
everything is extra . Also looked into the empyre ellite pro series 200
Have to go with a gasser (town rules) Looks like around the same price 10k
Open to all ideas for these units. Will build a room outside for this only interested indoor model 's
Tired of carrying wood down to the basement. Was hoping to do everything for under 10k
445-001 E100SF $8,995.00
425-001 E140SF $9,995.00
415-001 E180SF $10,895.00
435-001 E250SF $13,895.00
WOODGUN OPTIONS
ASME CODE certification $600.00
ASME CODE with UL certification $1,200.00
Oil Backup with Automatic switchover and lockout fan delay pkg including oil chamber. $2,300.00
Oil Backup with Manual switchover and lockout fan delay pkg including oil chamber. $1,900.00
200-404 4 hr. cycle timer with on-off switch, factory installed $250.00
Low Temperature Shutdown $229.00
453-010 Smoke exhaust hood with 362 CFM blower (large capacity) $369.00
OPTIONS AND ACCESSORIES FOR ALL BOILERS
100-002 Domestic hot water coil, factory installed $298.00
200-411 Low Water Cutoff $259.00
200-891 $525.00
200-890 Swimming Pool Stainless Steel Canister (includes coil) $698.00
(prices subject to change without notice)
Wood Gun with Stainless Steel vessel Heats up to 3,000 sq ft
Wood Gun with Stainless Steel vessel Heats up to 4,500 sq ft
Wood Gun with Stainless Steel vessel Heats up to 6,000 sq ft
Wood Gun with Stainless Steel vessel Heats up to 10,000 sq ft
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / indoor gasser woodgun 140
« on: February 25, 2014, 08:51:56 AM »
Ok have it narrowed down to a indoor gasser and so far the woodgun 140 seem's to be the one that would fit our need's.The only thing is the cost $9995.00 is hard to swallow plus the extras like the hood range and so on. Anything else we should be looking at or is this about the price range for this size unit.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Which gasification model Can it be inside?
« on: January 26, 2014, 05:22:36 AM »
Starting to get a clear picture on this.
Placing the gasser inside is out. The wood gun looks very interesting has a nice size firebox up to 31" long can go inside But not sure about the stainless steel part. I am comparing that to just a owb and was told to stay away from them with the stainless tanks.Anyone know the price of the wood gun's ?
If it was up to me I would just buy a owb so I could throw all the leftover wood odd pieces ect and burn it.The township approved my permit with a clause (have to sign a waiver from the dep for smoke ) They have the right to shut it down. So that's were the gasser came in to play.
I can change what wood I burn how about a piece of odd ball every few loads to get rid of that.Can aged dry pine be used have a endless supply of that ,
Placing the gasser inside is out. The wood gun looks very interesting has a nice size firebox up to 31" long can go inside But not sure about the stainless steel part. I am comparing that to just a owb and was told to stay away from them with the stainless tanks.Anyone know the price of the wood gun's ?
If it was up to me I would just buy a owb so I could throw all the leftover wood odd pieces ect and burn it.The township approved my permit with a clause (have to sign a waiver from the dep for smoke ) They have the right to shut it down. So that's were the gasser came in to play.
I can change what wood I burn how about a piece of odd ball every few loads to get rid of that.Can aged dry pine be used have a endless supply of that ,
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Which gasification model Can it be inside?
« on: January 25, 2014, 10:33:12 AM »
Looking at the indoor gaser they look small to me . Water tanks are like 75 gallons compared to the outdoor with 300 gallons. Sorry if these seem dumb but this is my first time buying one. The firebox also looks small and don't look like long burn times before feeding the fire again.
I sell firewood also so would be burning all the chunks and odd pieces leftover as well as pine and oak would all be seasoned. Would like to be able to throw larger size pieces in to reduce splitting them down to 6" rounds.
For size of the stove right now we have a 1500 sq ranch with a full basement and cathedral ceilings ,skylights and lots of window. 3 car garage ,hot water heater and a hot tub.Plans are to convert the excisting garage into living space install baseboard. Add on a 3 car garage
heat the floor and a 1200 sf addition .So the house will be double in a few years .
Open to all ideas if a outdoor gasser will out perform the indooren not having it inside will be a option. If the indoor gasser can take larger wood and last 12 hrs and not have to fill it every 6 to 8 hrs that would work.
I sell firewood also so would be burning all the chunks and odd pieces leftover as well as pine and oak would all be seasoned. Would like to be able to throw larger size pieces in to reduce splitting them down to 6" rounds.
For size of the stove right now we have a 1500 sq ranch with a full basement and cathedral ceilings ,skylights and lots of window. 3 car garage ,hot water heater and a hot tub.Plans are to convert the excisting garage into living space install baseboard. Add on a 3 car garage
heat the floor and a 1200 sf addition .So the house will be double in a few years .
Open to all ideas if a outdoor gasser will out perform the indooren not having it inside will be a option. If the indoor gasser can take larger wood and last 12 hrs and not have to fill it every 6 to 8 hrs that would work.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Which gasification model Can it be inside?
« on: January 24, 2014, 02:52:29 PM »
Going to have to do some more research then. Was going by the price of the unit 325g is $7500.00 anything in a gasser in that price range made for indoors. Was planning on a exhaust fan in the room as well as a gable vent for smoke. Basicly wanted it inside for cleaning it out.
.Figured putting some lights to see at night and staying warm while all this happens. Its been 6 to 20 degree's here .
There description says 36" clearance on all 4 sides and non combustion floor .I was thinking wood burning stove spec's like we have now in the house that's where the idea of putting it inside came from. Thanks for the input
.Figured putting some lights to see at night and staying warm while all this happens. Its been 6 to 20 degree's here .
There description says 36" clearance on all 4 sides and non combustion floor .I was thinking wood burning stove spec's like we have now in the house that's where the idea of putting it inside came from. Thanks for the input
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Which gasification model Can it be inside?
« on: January 24, 2014, 07:15:54 AM »
Ok getting ready to purchase a owb have it narrowed down to 2 models. Natures comfort 325 g or the wood boiler llc E4.Beside's the price difference around $1000.00 can anyone who possible has one tell me the major difference pro's and con's on the 2 models.Town appoved me so did the insurance company. Looking to do this in the spring.
Second question would like to add on to my shed add on a wing (extend the length ) to keep this inside instead of cleaning it out in the cold over the winter months .Would keep this seperate from the shed just sharing one wall and adding on its own doors. I am a builder so this isn't a problem for me. Concrete floor fireproof the common wall. ect ect. Any thought about that idea?
Any input would be a great help Thanks
Second question would like to add on to my shed add on a wing (extend the length ) to keep this inside instead of cleaning it out in the cold over the winter months .Would keep this seperate from the shed just sharing one wall and adding on its own doors. I am a builder so this isn't a problem for me. Concrete floor fireproof the common wall. ect ect. Any thought about that idea?
Any input would be a great help Thanks
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Wood boiler llc E - 4 model questions
« on: November 24, 2013, 10:11:56 AM »
Anyone have this model and how do you like it. Considering buying one. I read in the reviews that it is a new model and they had 2 test units running to heat the plant. It also stated that be sure the wood is dry or you will be doing a lot of cleaning. How about burning pine or unseasoned wood. Any input would help.
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