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Portage & Main / Re: BL 2840 "20 year limited warranty" any good?

« on: March 06, 2014, 12:28:33 PM »

Thanks slimjim. Why does PM boast about "industry’s best warranty!"
What is "best" about it?

It looks comparable to everything else out there.
PM does not make me feel better when they say on their FAQ on their website that the furnace "should last for years and years."
http://www.portageandmainboilers.com/#!faq/c19yz
That could mean anything.

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Portage & Main / BL 2840 "20 year limited warranty" any good?

« on: March 05, 2014, 10:24:44 AM »

I'm looking into buying the BL 2840 but I want to know what the "20 Year limited warranty" actually covers.
PM says it offers the "industry’s best warranty!"
Well, what is it?
Water jacket?
Heat exchanger?
Electrical?
Refractory brick?
Does the warranty cover on site repairs?
Is the warranty pro-rated?
After looking into the whole Wood Doctor mess, the warranty coverage suddenly becomes very important to me.

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Portage & Main / Re: BL 2840 ash system problems?

« on: February 20, 2014, 09:40:05 AM »

Thanks Crow and Jefito. Your experience is much appreciated. I'm hoping to find someone near me who has one of these so I can see how it runs in the flesh. My postal code is K0J 1L0. Anyone near me have one of these?

Crow, how does one stir properly?

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Portage & Main / Re: Brick lining lifespan for Ultimizer BL2840

« on: February 20, 2014, 06:34:03 AM »

Thanks SlimJim! Was wondering if you would post on my questions. Glad you have.

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Portage & Main / BL 2840 ash system problems?

« on: February 20, 2014, 06:33:17 AM »

Wondering if owners of the BL 2840 are liking the ash system or not? I'm looking to buying one of these, but that ash system worries me.

Do the grate ceramic blocks move around at the bottom or do they keep their spacing somehow?

Does the spacing between the blocks become clogged with ash so that ash cannot fall through anymore?

Does the furnace burn the wood completely down to white ash or are large coals falling through the cracks into the ash try?

Is the forced air from the bottom able to move up through the grate cracks when they are filled with ash?

Would love to hear your experience.

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Portage & Main / Re: Brick lining lifespan for Ultimizer BL2840

« on: February 20, 2014, 06:19:34 AM »

petebak, I would bet that anybody telling you that the lining will crack and disintegrate is a competitor, it is a newer product for us but at this point I know of not one failure and I do know that we stand behind what we sell, that is what my job is! IF the ceramics do crack in the future, they are held in place by gravity and can very easily be replaced, the reason for the lining is to increase the temp of the fire and keep it hot for a cleaner and more efficient burn. To me as a service oriented guy is that the boiler is sectional and we can replace any part of the boiler very easily, in my opinion this boiler properly maintained should be a lifetime investment because of that feature.

Two of my brothers told me to stay away from the brick because of cracking they experienced in their own non P-M outdoor furnaces.
What is the warranty on the bricks?
Is anyone out there having trouble with the brick lining?

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Portage & Main / Brick lining lifespan for Ultimizer BL2840

« on: February 19, 2014, 09:29:10 PM »

I'm looking into getting the BL2840 but everyone I know who owns an outdoor furnace says don't get one with a brick lining since the bricks crack and disintegrate very quickly (within one or two years). Is anyone having trouble with their bricks?
If the bricks do crack and disintegrate, would this mess up the ash flow down to the pan?
What do people think about the brick lining in this model in general?