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[Scott7m]

OK point taken guys, when a question is asked or point made I try to answer it to the best of my knowledge, as far as the waste of heat and danger, what would you call it when the conversation is about flames coming out of the stack of any boiler, I call it a waste of heat and very dangerous, Now let me ask those of you that have the Mahoning or any brand boiler that runs a TT wire out to the boiler to control the burn, is the temp of the boiler not controlled by an aquastat at the boiler as most manufacturers do? What would the benefit be of controlling the burn with a TT wire be

Slim, they do have aquastats yes, but they want there pumps to kick on and off with the fan in the forced air units in the home.  This is how a lot of companies do it, mahoning, Taylor, hardy, legend, some shaver setups, acme, the list goes on

So when the thermostat calls for heat the pump is kicked on along with the fan,there theory is there saving wood by not flowing water all the time, but from what I've seen it's primarily due to there piss poor home made style underground piping.   Around here they either don't insulate the lines and simply put them in casing, or at best wrap frost king around them

[slimjim]

Wow I would be concerned about that cold blast of water returning to the boiler when the circ starts

[Scott7m]

Wow I would be concerned about that cold blast of water returning to the boiler when the circ starts

They don't seem to mind, this is how 80% of the stoves I see in my area are installed..... 

[baldwin racing]

Wow I would be concerned about that cold blast of water returning to the boiler when the circ starts

They don't seem to mind, this is how 80% of the stoves I see in my area are installed.....

mine run 24/7 I would not want them to stop. myself I rather have them circulating.... up here when -30f id rather have it flowing not sitting.....lol
kelly

[slimjim]

I would certainly agree, but this is one of those things that we up here in the north country must deal with that those of you in the central and southern states have little concern over.

[Scott7m]

I would certainly agree, but this is one of those things that we up here in the north country must deal with that those of you in the central and southern states have little concern over.

true but hardys are installed this way nation wide

we get cold here but I guess not consistently as cold as you guys for sure, every year here at the house we get 5-6 nights below zero and sometimes colder, coldest ive seen at my house was -37f

[slimjim]

I spent some time in Alberta last year and I think the daytime highs for the first three days was something like 30 below zero

[Scott7m]

I spent some time in Alberta last year and I think the daytime highs for the first three days was something like 30 below zero

Yep that's frigid... 

[slimjim]

You certainly had to make sure the old 7.3 litre ford was plugged in or you were staying in the motel for the day. I lost the transmission in it today on the way to southern Mass. to deliver a boiler, ouch that hurt

[baldwin racing]

I would certainly agree, but this is one of those things that we up here in the north country must deal with that those of you in the central and southern states have little concern over.

true but hardys are installed this way nation wide

we get cold here but I guess not consistently as cold as you guys for sure, every year here at the house we get 5-6 nights below zero and sometimes colder, coldest ive seen at my house was -37f

yea scott we get it for weeks -30f with wind chill down around -60f that's when you know if your battery good in your vehicle....lol slim power service comes in handy along with power service 911 for those southern guys who come up here for the first time and don't run it in there diesels. ...lol if I see a guy from down south I make shure to mention it to them to put power service in there diesels trucks there is even times I gave them some while they were filling there trucks up, so they could take the container to go buy some more.....just so there trucks don't freeze up.....

scott, can they change them so they run 24/7?
kelly

[Scott7m]

They could but usually the installs done in that matter have little to no pipe insulation, sooooo???

[baldwin racing]

They could but usually the installs done in that matter have little to no pipe insulation, sooooo???

scott
 I ment if they install one up north....?

[Scott7m]

They could but usually the installs done in that matter have little to no pipe insulation, sooooo???

scott
 I ment if they install one up north....?

yea if they used good lines

[f150bft]

 

scott, can they change them so they run 24/7?
kelly

Kelly, I just finished my install of a used Hardy H-4 I had bought and I used "good insulated pipe" and wired the pump to run 24/7 because of the GREAT advice I had got from several on this forum. It was simple to make the pump run all time. I do have the thermostat wire run out to the stove in case I ever decided to hook it up the was it was designed. I don't think I will do that but I have the option.....
 Even though I am done with my install I still like to scan this forum to see what is going on and maybe I can offer someone a little advice on a hook up. I don't know a lot but I have learned a lot.

[slimjim]

Goal accomplished, lets keep up the conversations that help!