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[bigk712]

i just purchased a mahoning 200 and i cannot find any info on how to install,  im going to use a heat exchanger in my plenum, im not going to hook up my hot water tank this year, but there are two pumps in the back of the boiler does it matter which one i use? or is there a main one im supposed to hook up to? second question is on  the thermostat, i was going to hook my existing thermostat and just disconnect it from oil burner and run it to the woodstove, i have a transformer in the back and a relay anyone know which wires go where? i have emailed mahoning but have gotten no responses and one of the guys was supposed to call me back but nothing from him either. any help would be greatly appreciated. i have searched the internet and cant even find a manual anywhere thanks in advance.

[Scott7m]

If you wanna write down the info you see on each pump and give me a call tomorrow I can walk you through how to install and size everything accordingly

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[slimjim]

Most all boilers install pretty much the same, first step would be to determine where you want your stove placed, try to keep the underground pipe length as short as possible and use good pipe as it is expensive and you only want to do that part once. I typically try to place the stove where it will be easy to feed all winter without making anybody in the area aggravated by the smoke, here is the trick that I use, take a stick about 10 feet long and tie about 8 feet of flagging tape to the end of it, stick it into the ground where your stack will be and watch what the wind direction does at that point, wind directions will change dramatically near buildings and woods lines, this allows you to see what it will do at that exact point. As far as the installation we would need a lot more info about your system, are you saying that there is a transformer and switching relay on the back of the stove itself? The two circs that are on the stove would be for two different runs like one to the house and one to the garage, either one should be fine. As far as installing it, there are lots of us here that will be happy to help you but I would ask you to do it here on the forum as your questions and our answers will help someone else at the same time, be patient and good luck

[Scott7m]

Im sorry slim that once again i havent lived up to your high standards.  Ive done this numerous times before and me and the person who was needing help would always come back and tell the situation in full detail.

I for one find it much easier to ask specific questions and many folks do as well.

[slimjim]

Did I say something wrong?

[slimjim]

Obviously Scott we have a different way of doing buisiness, my goal is to improve the integrity of this industry by trying to help educate those that do not understand thier system, when a person comes on here that has an issue that is new to us all ,I personally would prefer to see that issue resolved here on the forum rather than a phone call where the only people having the discussion are the customer and salesperson, how do we all learn if the discusion is off line. Is this not the mission on the forum or am I sadly mistaken.

[Scott7m]

Obviously Scott we have a different way of doing buisiness, my goal is to improve the integrity of this industry by trying to help educate those that do not understand thier system, when a person comes on here that has an issue that is new to us all ,I personally would prefer to see that issue resolved here on the forum rather than a phone call where the only people having the discussion are the customer and salesperson, how do we all learn if the discusion is off line. Is this not the mission on the forum or am I sadly mistaken.

Slim, the man already has his stuff.  But I thorouhly enjoy helping someone out and answering the detailed questions that could take weeks to cover on a day to day forum post.

but as I said, always before we came back and gave a summary of what was discussed and explained the situation.   Everything aint about making a sale, i get calls from the forum probably 10 times per week of folks just asking simple stuff, although it gets hectic, I still enjoy it

[slimjim]

Thats the kind of stuff    I    like to hear

[bajonesy77]

Obviously Scott we have a different way of doing buisiness, my goal is to improve the integrity of this industry by trying to help educate those that do not understand thier system, when a person comes on here that has an issue that is new to us all ,I personally would prefer to see that issue resolved here on the forum rather than a phone call where the only people having the discussion are the customer and salesperson, how do we all learn if the discusion is off line. Is this not the mission on the forum or am I sadly mistaken.

This was Posted by slim in the shaver forum to someone asking for help .........

WOW what a waste of good heat, and a real safety hazard!

How did this improve integrity or educate anyone? If you don't have the answer why post at all? You need to chill out as you might be good with people face to face but your on-line communication skills are not the best as you come off like a "you know what" alot of the time. Just thought someone should be honest and let you know.

[bigk712]

This is the back of the stove

[bigk712]

This is one of the relay boxes kinda hidden under the pump

[bigk712]

so my question is there are two circulating pumps, i am only hooking to a heat exchanger in my plenum so will only be using two water lines. which pump should i hook up to and which return line do i use, from the picture above it looks like the left pump is a little bigger and it has a temp gauge mounted in it, but the one on the right at the bottom it has a ball valve on it so i really dnt know where to hook my water lines at? and if im only using the one pump do i just unplug the other one and close the valve for it? and my other question is for hooking up my thermostat to it, its a two wire thermostat red and yellow. there is a transformer if u look at pic above mounted on the electric box where the pumps are plugged into and if u look at the other pic there is a little relay box that sits just below pump. hope the pictures help out thanks

[baldwin racing]

so my question is there are two circulating pumps, i am only hooking to a heat exchanger in my plenum so will only be using two water lines. which pump should i hook up to and which return line do i use, from the picture above it looks like the left pump is a little bigger and it has a temp gauge mounted in it, but the one on the right at the bottom it has a ball valve on it so i really dnt know where to hook my water lines at? and if im only using the one pump do i just unplug the other one and close the valve for it? and my other question is for hooking up my thermostat to it, its a two wire thermostat red and yellow. there is a transformer if u look at pic above mounted on the electric box where the pumps are plugged into and if u look at the other pic there is a little relay box that sits just below pump. hope the pictures help out thanks

either pump will work...your boiler was made with 2 heating zones just leave one shut off (un plug electric or shut off and tape switch if it has one.....and plug line. they both go to the same place just one on the left and one on the right side of the stove....I will have to look at pic to see returns...if you use the left use the left return...I would imagine.... I have the same style hook up in house with forced hot air I will send of pic of the wires I jumped in my boiler so it just kick on blower instead of fuel oil furnace burner.....then it runs off same thermostat as before....if you want to run all same stuff to help with cost.....
if you have any ?'s or need help in bind call I will try to answer any ?'s you have 315-705-5735
kelly

[stratton]

Bajonesy 77 +1 i agree
Slim, you do come across a little ruff at times.
I visit this site daily, I'm a total junky for pics info and stories keep em coming!!!!

[slimjim]

OK point taken guys, when a question is asked or point made I try to answer it to the best of my knowledge, as far as the waste of heat and danger, what would you call it when the conversation is about flames coming out of the stack of any boiler, I call it a waste of heat and very dangerous, Now let me ask those of you that have the Mahoning or any brand boiler that runs a TT wire out to the boiler to control the burn, is the temp of the boiler not controlled by an aquastat at the boiler as most manufacturers do? What would the benefit be of controlling the burn with a TT wire be