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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2011, 07:11:34 AM »

Link removed.  I think there were a lot of lurkers out there and it was bogging down my personal use. 

Sorry~

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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2011, 04:39:43 AM »

I know more about your house that I do about my own!   :post:  It's pretty cool that I can monitor your house from clear across the country real time, but I'm still having to go down to our basement to see what my heat is coming from the OWB, then outside to check on the OWB. 
That is one sophisticated setup you have there and we are all jealous!
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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2011, 06:08:35 AM »

Yeah what he said ^   LOL
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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2011, 07:41:45 AM »

MTJAG-

Your really going to hate this. I have it linked to my Iphone, so I don't even have to start the computer to "see" what the Green Dragon is doing. If I'm on one of my business trips, I can call the wife and tell her when to add wood! That's the main purpose of this set-up-to monitor when I'm away.

Now, as far as sharing. Some of shown interest in "seeing" what the heat load is on a OWB. Since I did not install my system the conventional way. (DHWX before HX) I can share what the results are for using my DHWX after my HX and using the HWH as a storage tank. After a month of use I am satisfied with my setup and while not using a mixing valve feel comfortable on keeping it this way.

Another reason for this set-up. I called yoderheating shortly after my initial install back in April. I had discovered my HX did NOT fill the plenum. (installed by CB dealer) I had a one inch gap on one side. I felt too much air would bypass the heat exchanger. He put my concern to rest after I explained I had a heat pump and he replied that fully filling the plenum would not allow enough air flow through my AC coil during the summer months and could cause icing. After this last summer use of the AC, I had no issues. Now that I'm in heat mode I also noted no issues. Not with 135F air coming out of the vents!

Back to the temp module- There are two items I still want to get working. Email pushes for when the Green Dragon comes on and the possibility to get connected to AVWorkz. At AVWorks, I'll be able to select which sensors I want to graph. They offer free service for X300 residential monitors ($49/yr for data logging per two sensors). I'm just looking for the free service as I have no real reason to data log.

Xytronix is working with me to get the sensors calibrated closer to actual values. (Reading 3-4F low) They are going to add a calibration feature to add/subtract values from "read" values. This will require a firmware update.

So that's it in a nutshell.
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« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2011, 03:18:04 PM »

Thanks to the efforts of Xytronix we got my email alerts to work today.

AVWorks is a small company and are working on a large project. They promise to contact me soon. (per Xytronics).

In short Xytronics has great customer support!!
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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2011, 03:55:47 PM »

MTJAG-

Your really going to hate this. I have it linked to my Iphone, so I don't even have to start the computer to "see" what the Green Dragon is doing. If I'm on one of my business trips, I can call the wife and tell her when to add wood! That's the main purpose of this set-up-to monitor when I'm away.

Now, as far as sharing. Some of shown interest in "seeing" what the heat load is on a OWB. Since I did not install my system the conventional way. (DHWX before HX) I can share what the results are for using my DHWX after my HX and using the HWH as a storage tank. After a month of use I am satisfied with my setup and while not using a mixing valve feel comfortable on keeping it this way.

Another reason for this set-up. I called yoderheating shortly after my initial install back in April. I had discovered my HX did NOT fill the plenum. (installed by CB dealer) I had a one inch gap on one side. I felt too much air would bypass the heat exchanger. He put my concern to rest after I explained I had a heat pump and he replied that fully filling the plenum would not allow enough air flow through my AC coil during the summer months and could cause icing. After this last summer use of the AC, I had no issues. Now that I'm in heat mode I also noted no issues. Not with 135F air coming out of the vents!

Back to the temp module- There are two items I still want to get working. Email pushes for when the Green Dragon comes on and the possibility to get connected to AVWorkz. At AVWorks, I'll be able to select which sensors I want to graph. They offer free service for X300 residential monitors ($49/yr for data logging per two sensors). I'm just looking for the free service as I have no real reason to data log.

Xytronix is working with me to get the sensors calibrated closer to actual values. (Reading 3-4F low) They are going to add a calibration feature to add/subtract values from "read" values. This will require a firmware update.

So that's it in a nutshell.

There's an app for that!  That is really cool...  8)
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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #81 on: November 21, 2011, 04:04:06 PM »

APP? I wish! Actually used the IPhone browser Safari and linked my webpage then saved it to the home screen.
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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #82 on: December 02, 2011, 06:58:14 AM »

I previously removed the link because I thought too many people were bogging down my link. Come to find out the issue was on my end. Instead of me using my LAN address I was trying to use the DNS address. Trying to send a request through the same router that will deliver that command was bogging down the router.

So here it is again if your interested. Let me know if works. (or doesn't).

http://ridgekid.dyndns.org:8080/index.html

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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #83 on: December 02, 2011, 01:41:13 PM »

Ridgekid,
"I can call the wife and tell her when to add wood! That's the main purpose of this set-up-to monitor when I'm away."
I don't think even with your set up that I could get my wife to reload the boiler.
I shared with her one of my experiences with opening the door to quick without letting it clear the chamber, it was some what of a scene out of "Backdraft" and that is all she needed to remind me that she still knows how to fire up the propane!
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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #84 on: December 02, 2011, 02:18:04 PM »

Church-

She can actually refill it without my help, I was just trying to be humorous.

Although the real test is coming for her to babysit the Green Dragon for more than one feeding. More on that later.
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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #85 on: December 06, 2011, 09:47:07 AM »

I just ordered my temp monitoring equipment from controlbyweb.com as well.

I chose to order the X300-I model that comes with the 12VDC power supply instead of the POE model, and ordered 6 additional temp sensors and one wall mount temp/humidity sensor for the basement.

Can't wait till it arrives on Monday!
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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #86 on: December 06, 2011, 10:28:12 AM »

Awesome. If you think you'll need help setting it up let me know. I'll pm you my phone number.
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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #87 on: December 06, 2011, 11:33:27 AM »

Ok, thanks. I tried the wireless smoker thermometers you originally were using, but I find that the range is insufficient. They don't work even when the receiving unit is about 10 feet away and seperated only by the floor. So I like this a lot better. I was actually searching for something like the controlbyweb setup for weeks to no avail.
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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #88 on: December 06, 2011, 05:12:40 PM »

Surprised they didn't work better. I had my transmitters in the basement and was able to obtain readings on the second floor of our house.

Let's discuss your new temp module, then I'll pm my phone number.

1. Download a copy of the users manual and start reading it. You don't get one with the module.

2. You'll have to get access to the module first. They use a default IP address that required me to set up a temporary TCP port so I could find it. Once you change the module to the IP address to match your network, don't forget to set the TCP port back to it's original setting. OH and very important: The IP changes you make to the module don't take effect until you reboot the module. Only network changes require reboots.

3. Next- You want temperature module right? They ship them as thermostats. There is a small pin hole on the bottom of the module for master reset. Power down your module, depress reset and hold while you power up. Wait for the yellow light to start blinking. You now have 1 minute to get back to the User interface and switch it from thermostat to thermometer on the main menu. You only have to do this once it will always remember your choice even in power outages.  Always click SUBMIT when you make a change.

4. Now you have to Identify all your sensors. Plug (wire) each one in one at a time. Go to user interface on the sensor tab. Click sensor one, do to drop down window and it will show you the address for the digital sensor. Now click submit. Tag that sensor #1.  Write down the address.  When you do the next sensor, go to sensor two, click drop down window you will see two address's. Click the new address not previous recorded. Click submit. Record number. Tag sensor- Repeat until all sensors have been identified.

5. Now you have to build your "Daisey chain". I used two cables, four sensors on each. It will really depend on how long your run is. There is a limit how far you can go with 8 sensors. Can't remember what that is as I'm typing all of this from memory. They recommend Ethernet cable (CAT 5) to use as cable runs. The sensors use Black, red and blue wires. Ethernet wire is paired as Green, orange, brown, blue and yellow? I went blue to blue, red to green and black to yellow. I also only used single strand (not the paired wires) on the ethernet cable.

6. Wire your harness into the module.

7. Go to the user interface and start from sensor one and select the address you saved. (and wrote down). If you decide to use a different sensor for sensor one because you put your sensors in the wrong place? no problem. you can switch it now through the drop down window. After you select the sensor address you can change "Sensor One to what ever name you want.

Your up and running! The next part is setting up alarms, relays and email pushes. We can talk about that later.

PM on the way!

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Re: Temp monitoring plans
« Reply #89 on: December 09, 2011, 09:07:41 PM »

Church-

It's later........

I went out of town for 4 days. Guess who had to take care of the Green Dragon? Yep the wifeee! She didn't do too bad. I know I didn't give her a fair start either. I decided to clean out some ashes before I left. BIG MISTAKE! It was right before the cold spell that hit us on Wednesday and the Green Dragon was going through burn cycles every two hours. I thought she broke it! Come to find out she was raking ashes every time she went out to stock it. Without that "base" of embers the fire had a hard time keeping up. It did better yesterday and today.

She didn't even say hello when I came in the door. "It's all yours! Better go see if it needs wood" I go out and open the door and the wood is all over the place. Single layer! So I built a pyramid with what she had scattered inside and added 7 more pieces on top of that. Got to get that ember base built up again!

From midnight to 6PM she had 9 burns (one every two hours) I've been home for 5 hours and we have had ONE BURN! I guess she needs to be retrained. (oops , did I say that out loud??)

For those interested, I was in Huntington-WV, Haverhill-Ohio, Madison-In and Carrollton (Ghent) KY. About 1200 miles round trip in 4 days. Always great to be home.
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