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[Scott7m]

Just wondering if anyone here has a plan or has started putting steps in place to be able to self sustain in case of economic collapse or national disaster.  I know that most people think that things really couldn't get "that bad" but I don't think it's a matter of if but when, may not be in my lifetime but I want to be prepared that my family will survive whether there is a walmart, lcoal store, mcdonalds, power grid or not. 

What say you?

[Ridgekid]

A little off subject for this forum, but we will have heat!  In a few weeks I'll have 6500w generator. I have a 2500w for boating but not big enough for my house but it is for my sons house. I live in the woods and own guns.

We'll survive!

Oh yeah gas for generators?  Boat is topped off with 65 gallons.  We will get through the initial madness.

[Scott7m]

Yea, what happened to the general discussion area, a lot of us here are friends and need a place to converse.

[Firechaser]

I have considered this, but can't get around the gasoline aspect

[mcarter]

Not so much for disaster preparedness but I have a 10kW Generac which operates on natural gas or propane.  I would like to place my furnace fan on this backup generator but not sure if I can separate it from the 60 amp circuit. 

More importantly, my TV stays on and the beer in the fridge stays cold!   

[Scott7m]

I understand folks wanting to make peeps to have heat in small circumstances but I'm talking about something major.  Collapse of economy/govt...  Meaning there won't be stores open or gas available. 

I guess my idea of disaster is far different than most....  It wouldnt take much to shift us into something like that.  A terrorist attack with biological weapons, attacking the water supply, collapse of the economy, hyper inflation, I'm assuming most folks just kick back and say not in the good ol USA, but not me. 

I take a bit of pride in knowing that I've Learned from grandparents and such that lived during the depression that one should never be in position to always depend on "the system". Owb's are a step away from the system but still depending on the grid. 

I just think and know that I can make simple preparations now that could give me a sustainable food supply for my family if the worst were to occur, what kinda fool would I be if I knew I coulda prevented my kids from being hungry and having them come up to you saying there hungry. I couldn't live with that

[Bull]

Scott, we think somewhat alike. This is why I was asking in another post about using a gassifier to run a generator. I have plans and hope to start building a still (for fuel) LOL and or a gasiifier to run the generator that I have. About 6 to 8 months of food in the pantry, big garden, lots of deer, turkey, and other critters around here. And I invest in precious metals (lead as in ammo) and steel (as in guns).
Bill

[Scott7m]

Scott, we think somewhat alike. This is why I was asking in another post about using a gassifier to run a generator. I have plans and hope to start building a still (for fuel) LOL and or a gasiifier to run the generator that I have. About 6 to 8 months of food in the pantry, big garden, lots of deer, turkey, and other critters around here. And I invest in precious metals (lead as in ammo) and steel (as in guns).
Bill

Yup, nothing wrong with that.  I do the same. 

I also keep a few chickens/rabbits as they can produce enough food to feed a family in a very very small space.   

[mikenc]

If america continues to keep going in the same direction she is going it want be long. Like the rest of you I am not going to depend on our goverment to take care of my family. Younger  generation(most of) have no idea how to survive in hard  times. (disaster) Like you said Scott its not if but when!!
I am going to do all that is possible to make sure my family is taken care of and what i can't do I will put my trust in the God of heaven and earth to do the rest.

[wiseass13]

Victory makes a gasifier that u can run a kohler hydrogen generator on.. looks sweet. Im new to this site and just invested in owb. Its a step in the right direction. Great site by the way

[willieG]

i have a 10 kw solar panel i feed to the grid and i am sure with a little work i could take it off the grid if were gone and get by about 8 months of the year by conserving (with battery back up)

maybe i should start hoarding 12 volt pumps and motors now?

[Scott7m]

i have a 10 kw solar panel i feed to the grid and i am sure with a little work i could take it off the grid if were gone and get by about 8 months of the year by conserving (with battery back up)

maybe i should start hoarding 12 volt pumps and motors now?

I would..   One thing I'm gonna work on over the next couple years is a 5500kw wind mill.  Home made of course. It would be grid tie for the time being

[RSI]

i have a 10 kw solar panel i feed to the grid and i am sure with a little work i could take it off the grid if were gone and get by about 8 months of the year by conserving (with battery back up)

maybe i should start hoarding 12 volt pumps and motors now?

Wow, that must have cost plenty. How big of an area does it cover?
Just hoard inverters and you can run any motors. Lol

[willieG]

mine is grid tied for a 20 year contract ((or i guess until Hydro 1 (my provider) goes broke)) i have a 20 year rate of 80.2 cents a KW hour.

[Scott7m]

mine is grid tied for a 20 year contract ((or i guess until Hydro 1 (my provider) goes broke)) i have a 20 year rate of 80.2 cents a KW hour.

What did u have in the panel? Return on investment and does it help your bill much?  Measurements