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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #45 on: February 27, 2009, 05:48:44 PM »

did you buy one yet
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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #46 on: February 27, 2009, 07:05:30 PM »

not yet i'm in the process of trying to become a dealer for central boiler
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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2009, 05:59:19 AM »

If you become a dealer I want good deals on replacement products..heheheh
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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2009, 04:59:34 PM »

We want to eventually have an outdoor wb furnace too. I have been doing research and reading for a couple of years or more when I get a chance. Of course the sales people will all tell you that they have the best and even those who have them will tend to be skewed toward the one they have if it works well and against it if they have problems. Pretty standard. That’s how we humans operate. I have had a lot of questions still but I did find a link that had an interesting report. I hope it is permissible to post a link here. I did find the report online when I was searching for information on a particular furnace I found in the classifieds someone is trying to sell (new, never used). The link is: http://www.ashcreekph.com/images/Heating_Logos/Energy_Industry_Report.pdf. A lot of what I read makes sense. Where you live and the cold you are facing would make a difference. As far as the ranking system they used, you have to make up your own mind about the report. Good luck.
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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2009, 05:43:20 PM »

If you become a dealer I want good deals on replacement products..heheheh

buy a hawken..i think the dealer just arrived..lol
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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2009, 06:56:43 PM »

forgive me..i couldn't resist

but when i see such a spread between one manufacturer and all the rest it seems a bit suspicious
i apologize
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« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2009, 07:04:32 PM »

 classifieds someone is trying to sell (new, never used). The link is: http:has//www.ashcreekph.com/images/Heating_Logos/Energy_Industry_Report.pdf                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     look like dealer to me
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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2009, 08:11:21 PM »

Using words like "silly warranty" and some other phrases for the "other" furnaces tends to make me believe that it was written by some Hawken group.  I remember Central Boiler coming out with this "EPA article" explaining the benefits of the E-Classic.  In the fine print was Central Boiler's name...

I'm pretty sure they all do it.
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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #53 on: March 01, 2009, 10:47:25 PM »

I assure you I am not a dealer. I found the report when I googled Hardy H3 Outdoor Wood Furnace because there is one listed in the classifieds of the Jefferson City newspaper. I only know I will be following up on the report, i.e. calling the listed authors and inquiring about their information. I am interested in finding the best OWB that I can find that will provide us with the heat and hot water that we require without feeding it on a too regular basis. I talked to a salesperson for Central once and he said that unless it was very cold (below 0), I should only have to add logs once every 24-36 hours. And that was for Montana. From what I have read here, that would seem to be quite an exageration.  I will not commit to buying any brand until I believe I have the best and most information I can get, along with a very good understanding of the warranty and what it will cover. Without that, none of them will get my money.
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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2009, 03:03:04 AM »

well thats how i found it   loo.king at hardy  furnace   i  think the report is a dealer
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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2009, 03:09:58 PM »

Hi
I am a Heatmor dealer.
Been following this thread and think I can add some insight about becoming a dealer.
Yea it sounds great when you can get a stove cheap and sell some to recoup your investment!
It started great for me but think first.
1. How do you get them to buyer? How do you intend to move them around?
2. Phone time  I have at least 100 calls of just looking at whats out there. this gets old on weekends.
3. Warranty work. wait till you get some one with 10 yrold furnace that is leaking and wants new for free.
 This was my first call thought Heatmor did well to offer to replace furnace for 50% of new cost hooked up
but was told off by owner after spending hours on phone.
4. Parts you will get calls for parts and will not make many $ for time.
5. Do you have a sales tax license?
 If you are in the heating bus. not a bad way to go but I now know I will not make much money at this.
 I do love my 200 and think it is the best stove on the market.
I have 1800sq ft. log home 6 1/2 full cords so far. Northern Michigan
I will be happy to answer any Heatmor questions for you
Beaver Creek Alt. Heat

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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2009, 07:33:12 PM »

Hi
I am a Heatmor dealer.
Been following this thread and think I can add some insight about becoming a dealer.
Yea it sounds great when you can get a stove cheap and sell some to recoup your investment!
It started great for me but think first.
1. How do you get them to buyer? How do you intend to move them around?
2. Phone time  I have at least 100 calls of just looking at whats out there. this gets old on weekends.
3. Warranty work. wait till you get some one with 10 yrold furnace that is leaking and wants new for free.
 This was my first call thought Heatmor did well to offer to replace furnace for 50% of new cost hooked up
but was told off by owner after spending hours on phone.
4. Parts you will get calls for parts and will not make many $ for time.
5. Do you have a sales tax license?
 If you are in the heating bus. not a bad way to go but I now know I will not make much money at this.
 I do love my 200 and think it is the best stove on the market.
I have 1800sq ft. log home 6 1/2 full cords so far. Northern Michigan
I will be happy to answer any Heatmor questions for you
Beaver Creek Alt. Heat


6 1/2 full cords..mmm I do beleive I have read (for possably the first time) an honest a statement from a dealer. may i ask if that is good wood ..oak or hickory and dry wood as well

i heat with only dead elm...some getting punky and some still decent, but all dry and i use about 8 to ten full cords on a normal year..this year will be more i think as i am at about 9 now  I fill my stove twice a day no matter the weather..just less per fill  on warm days , i find stuffing the stove just makes for more unburnt coals as they get covered by fine ash if the stove is filled too full

im at the southern tip of lake huron on the canadian side (30 miles east of port huron michigan)             
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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2009, 09:25:33 PM »

well, i would move the stoves on a trailer, i would load them with a fork truck.....     

As with any business, you actually have to do something to make it work, you can't feel hassled because you got a few to many calls on the weekend... 

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Re: Gettin ready to buy my first outdoor boiler
« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2009, 09:27:47 PM »

Hi
I am a Heatmor dealer.
Been following this thread and think I can add some insight about becoming a dealer.
Yea it sounds great when you can get a stove cheap and sell some to recoup your investment!
It started great for me but think first.
1. How do you get them to buyer? How do you intend to move them around?
2. Phone time  I have at least 100 calls of just looking at whats out there. this gets old on weekends.
3. Warranty work. wait till you get some one with 10 yrold furnace that is leaking and wants new for free.
 This was my first call thought Heatmor did well to offer to replace furnace for 50% of new cost hooked up
but was told off by owner after spending hours on phone.
4. Parts you will get calls for parts and will not make many $ for time.
5. Do you have a sales tax license?
 If you are in the heating bus. not a bad way to go but I now know I will not make much money at this.
 I do love my 200 and think it is the best stove on the market.
I have 1800sq ft. log home 6 1/2 full cords so far. Northern Michigan
I will be happy to answer any Heatmor questions for you
Beaver Creek Alt. Heat




so why didn't heatmor replace his stove?  they are supposed to have a lifetime warranty, I would think unless they sent someone out to fix his stove, they should have replaced it, if he can't continue to use his stove, then what good is the warranty?
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« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2009, 10:00:21 PM »

Scott,
 About the stove if you look at the warranty it is prorated as I believe most brands are.
I can only tell you Heatmors warranty but would be curious to know what centrals is word for word.
heatmor from the warranty sheet is
first 5 years 100%
year 6 is 70 %
year 7 is 60%
year 8 is 40%
9 is 20 %
10-19 is 15%
20 and beyond is 10%
The owner of this stove e-mailed me the pictures and I forwarded them to the factory. The owner had a welder come to see if it could be repaired he stated it could not be. Heatmor decided that they would send a new stove to him for 50% of the cost of a new stove about $4500 delived to him, I thought this was a fair offer from heatmor, If you got 10 yrs. and had to pay 50% for a replacement would you be satisified? What would Central Boiler have for a warranty?
 Not trying to be trouble am curious. I have only been a dealer for a year and am not so sure if its worth all the extra work involved.
 That was the reason i mentioned this as there will be issues that you have no control over.
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