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[cmbb]

Heat loss calc will be done next week. If the heat load comes in small I am thinking an indoor boiler might be the way to go. So many choices and decisions!

[S.J.B.]

Cmbb,  Here is my 2 cents. First I will tell you I am a Portage & Maine dealer and also an Empyre dealer, I have personaly run for at least a full season a Central Boiler 2300 series, this boiler drove me to become a P&M dealer with all the issues. 2 years ago I ran a Portage optimizer 250 gasser and it ran much better than the CB. To my curiosity this season I installed the Empyre Pro 200, now were talking,  This boiler is truly the cleanest burning boiler that I have seen, I am heating my 1800sg house ,my DHW and my 1500sq ft garage. I have cut my wood consumption by 4 cord per year over my origional OWB. Very happy with the empyre.

[MattyNH]

Cmbb,  Here is my 2 cents. First I will tell you I am a Portage & Maine dealer and also an Empyre dealer, I have personaly run for at least a full season a Central Boiler 2300 series, this boiler drove me to become a P&M dealer with all the issues. 2 years ago I ran a Portage optimizer 250 gasser and it ran much better than the CB. To my curiosity this season I installed the Empyre Pro 200, now were talking,  This boiler is truly the cleanest burning boiler that I have seen, I am heating my 1800sg house ,my DHW and my 1500sq ft garage. I have cut my wood consumption by 4 cord per year over my origional OWB. Very happy with the empyre.

            Not sure where you live..I guess my only question is....You saved yourself 4 cord of wood by your new Empyre??..I don't see how you can say that for someone else..Its like someone in the south having the exact same boiler as mine..He burns 4 cord a season and I burn 10 cord a season and I live in the North..Theres is no one on this forum that can tell someone that he is burning too much wood.. So many different situations...

[Bull]

The amount of wood used does depend on the owb you have but also depends on your location, size of heat load (house garage dhw etc.) type of wood and other factors.

[woodman]

The amount of wood used does depend on the owb you have but also depends on your location, size of heat load (house garage dhw etc.) type of wood and other factors.

Guys I think what he is saying is, the empyre used 4 cord less than his original boiler (I assume the cb2300) with the btu requirement remaining the same. His house and garage are in the same location regardless of where it is.

[martyinmi]

The Empyre will not burn 4 less cords than a CB 2300 or a P&M 250. I am positive that the comparison he is making referred to his Empyre vs his conventional OWB he owned before any of his gassers. The Empyre, CB, and P&M are all very close where efficiencies are concerned. I'll leave it up to you folks to find out for yourselves from Intertek(one of the EPA qualified testing facilities) which one is most efficient.

[MattyNH]

The amount of wood used does depend on the owb you have but also depends on your location, size of heat load (house garage dhw etc.) type of wood and other factors.

..I agree on like you said location, heat load ,type of wood burning..I'll add the way its hooked up..Only thing I disagree is on the " depend on the owb you have"..Not sure how you can say that..

[MattyNH]

The Empyre will not burn 4 less cords than a CB 2300 or a P&M 250. I am positive that the comparison he is making referred to his Empyre vs his conventional OWB he owned before any of his gassers. The Empyre, CB, and P&M are all very close where efficiencies are concerned. I'll leave it up to you folks to find out for yourselves from Intertek(one of the EPA qualified testing facilities) which one is most efficient.

Dealer pushing his products!!!

[S.J.B.]

Sorry Guy,s I ment I saved4 cord over the old smoke dragen, Went from 12 cord down to 8. Location is central mass on top of a very windy hill. 

[Bull]

The amount of wood used does depend on the owb you have but also depends on your location, size of heat load (house garage dhw etc.) type of wood and other factors.

..I agree on like you said location, heat load ,type of wood burning..I'll add the way its hooked up..Only thing I disagree is on the " depend on the owb you have"..Not sure how you can say that..

I am sure that my Hardy H2 is not as efficient as some other owb brands that are here. If I had a more efficient stove I would burn less wood.

[martyinmi]

Sorry Guy,s I ment I saved4 cord over the old smoke dragen, Went from 12 cord down to 8. Location is central mass on top of a very windy hill. 

I have a couple of questions.
1) What didn't you like about the P&M 250?
2) My actuator is making a noise that I've never heard before. It is still working perfectly, but I'd like to keep one on hand just in case. Do you stock them? If not, can you get me one?

   Thanks in advance