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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2012, 05:56:59 PM »

I experimented with nc stoves..  Insulating the bottom and skirting and not, couldnt tell it made any difference...

Marty, he has great line!!  5 wrap from badger! 

Yea I was referring to the valve on the inside boiler down to 160....   

Wooded, if you open the door and it then flares up, you def need more air!  You should not be able to stand in front of the door with the fan on if it's running properly.  I'd move the air slider to like notch 4!  You get more efficient burns with a hotter fire, and if you see it burns better with the door open that's a sure Indicator your fire is air starved and very inefficient! 

Coal requires more air too!  That's why I say open her on up, if you have a proper fire and you open the door it should be roaring and leaping out the door at ya!!
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2012, 06:04:26 PM »

Wooded, I also want to add that with your stove working properly it shouldnt take but a few minutes to raise 10 degrees in this kind of weather...  I'd say you should see the temp raise 1 degree per minute in this weather
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2012, 06:55:27 PM »

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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2012, 06:58:20 PM »

Scott I am headed out at 9 to try and make it through the night. i can give you a call tomorrow. is there any time better than another?
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2012, 07:01:22 PM »

I'll have my cell with me but will be in and out of coverage all day. Just call and leave a msg and if I'm unavailable I'll get back to ya...

Call up NC tomorrow...  You don't have to tell them you've been asking me but just ask them what is wrong, just curious to what they'll say
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2012, 09:54:49 PM »

I haven't read every post but are you getting much smoke out the chimney? You should be able to get it set so it can hardly be seen. More air doesn't necessarily mean you will use more wood. You want it to heat up fast and then idle. If you have much creosote built up it will cause heat loss up the chimney also.

My brother has the air wide open on his NCB250 and can go 24 hours on a filling. I think his house is at least 2500 sq ft.
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2012, 06:13:32 AM »

RSI, i get a little smoke when i first put wood in it. bu clear in about 15 minutes. last night when i loaded actually had roaring flame out the chimney with the door open.goes right away with it closed. i don't have any added chimney right now. i am over 1/2 mile from my closest neighbor and the prevailing wind blows away from my house so didn't feel the need unless it was critical to burn times. I think Scott has added dramatically in his advise. i was unaware of the actual temp setting of my inside boiler. well when Scott and Bull concurred that i needed to turn it down i became aware that my hvac guy is a tool. we bought this house last February and when we moved in the frist month we burned up almost 950.00 in propane at roughly 2.25 a gallon. so i called him out. been a friend of the family for many years. i told him i felt we were using too much propane he agreed and did a clean and check. said the boiler burn was at roughly 83% and that was very good. well after my discovery yesterday he didn't look at the temperature of the water. the aquastat was set at 192°. yep 192°. well i spoke to my father who ran a boiler from 1953 till about 1995. he said that is nuts. said we never ran ours above 145°. asked what the boiler pressure was and i told him it was 25 psi. again he flipped out. said nomore than 15psi. said well i think you found your propane/wood consumption issue. so last night was the first night we made it all the way through. i am barely gonna make 12 hrs but a far cry from 3 to 6 hrs. still using a mix of hard dry wood and anthracite. would love to load once a day but 12hrs... i"ll take it for now
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2012, 08:50:20 AM »

I couldn't figure out why your boiler was set so high either...  We'll just have to wait and see what effects this has on it..

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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2012, 09:10:49 PM »

Wondering if you figured anything out yet wooded?

You said you used 950 in propane in a month???  It wouldn't make a huge difference if your boiler was at 150 vs 190.  All that heat was going somewhere?   

How well is your home insulated? 
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2012, 06:34:05 AM »

it made a huge difference in my wood consumption. older part of the house was built in the mid 80's. it is square cut log home. about 8" thick. the addition was added in 2005 and it is very well insulated. it warmed up a bit up here in Ohio but i am looking at 16hrs on the last load. draft fan opened to 4th notch.yesterday went 12hrs on a half load. i am not sure but i don't think this stove is gonna burn that anthracite the way it needs to be. seems like it wants a more direct flow of air. trying to get some Kentucky lump. used nothing but firewood last night. loaded at 9pm. it is 8:30am and still have a descent amount of log left in the stove. kentucky coal 225 a ton here. ohio coal about 150 a ton. guy from supplier said kentucky burns much hotter and cleaner than the ohio coal..
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2012, 08:32:55 AM »

Ky coal is 90 a ton here
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2012, 11:12:05 AM »

i am sure it is shipping costs
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2012, 07:56:21 PM »

Wooded where are you? I'm in Hocking county and have just found your posts. I've had a lot of success with wood and coal. Can get you hooked up with $75 per ton Ohio coal, it's what i'm burning now. Will help if I can. PM me.
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2012, 08:43:03 AM »

i am in ashtabula county. trumbull township. burning straight anthracite right now. pretty happy so far. just takes awhile it seems to bring water up to temperature. i think it is because the fire is so low in the firebox with coal
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Re: Draft Fan Opening
« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2012, 07:21:41 AM »

Rick N Kristi. did you get my PM?
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