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Powder additives
« on: January 14, 2013, 05:21:57 AM »

Who uses ash troll? I’ve been hearing I can buy some stuff at the local feed mill like powdered lime to sprinkle in the fire box to help keep the crap off the sides and top of the burn box. So what is everyone been using? I have been using ash troll every other day one scoop

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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 11:19:45 AM »

There are products out there, one called pro former is from empyre, but I don't use it currently, it's primary purpose is to keep creosote from sticking to anything, I don't see why anyone would need it in a conventional model
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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 04:14:21 PM »

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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 07:05:06 PM »

I figured it was similar to pro former, it puts a coating on the metal and breaks down the creosote too

What's the deal with the lime?  Does it help?
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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 07:47:28 PM »

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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 09:45:54 PM »

Do you know that lyme is the same as ashtrol for a fact? Or is that just your opinion or guess? In my Classic, I experimented with using it for a couple weeks, then not using it for a couple of weeks.  I could visually see less creosote build up on my firebox walls when using ashtrol. I also was told it would neturalize the acids in the ash reducing metal corrosion. I have to say, I had no corrosion in the firebox even after 7 years of use, so it must have been working. I continue to use ashtrol in my Eclassic, but don't really don't see that it reduces creosote build up in firebox, but I do continue using for its neturalization of the ash acids. My Eclassic is a big investment, ashtrol small price to pay for extra longevity of it in my mind, along with the consistant maintenance procedures listed in the owners manual. I'm into my 3rd season with my E2400 and the firebox still looks great, with no signs of corrosion.
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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 02:11:59 PM »

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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 02:19:07 PM »

I'm not buying that at all....  I would think ash troll is designed like empyres pro former, it makes it where the creosote can't even stick to the steel, if it does, it falls off as soon as you touch it. Also it changes the way the creosote looks and feels, makes it drier and flakier
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 04:59:08 PM »

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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 10:33:53 PM »

That link was no different than this whole thread...   Guessing and speculation.  That's like saying this smells like unleaded gas, looks like gas, must be unleaded gas.  Could be leaded gas lol
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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 06:25:30 PM »

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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 06:56:07 PM »

Now kids...lets play nice  ::)
I have done a lot of "google" research on this topic and it appears the "proprietary" ingredients are generally a combination of calcium hydroxide, sodium bicarbonate, and magnesium hydroxide. These chemicals are commonly known as slaked lime, baking soda, and epsom salts.
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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 07:05:59 PM »

Well generally if walks like duck and quacks like a duck its usually a duck,  take your self for example if you sound like a dick and act like a dick my guess is your probablly a dick  LOL

Real classy there buddy, real classy

I was looking for scientific data, not more of a rumor mill, but since you'd assume go on pure rumor and speculation, I understand your lack of desire to know the truth.
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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 07:07:35 PM »

Somewhere CB has paperwork saying what's in it, they would have to have that information available at someone's request
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Re: Powder additives
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2013, 07:18:37 PM »

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