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[Scott7m]

I'd never signup for budget billing, if there was an issue, by the time you found it, it would be hard to dispute.  But to each there own, I just don't wanna trust others to do the calculating for me

[snakedriver]

The idea is "Trust, but verify."

All I was trying to do was help. You are a bit too caustic, Scott. You could have phrased that differently and made your point without offending me and those who subscribe or have subscribed to budget billing.

I have a feeling that your point was other than it sounded. I hope.

Jerry

[jerkash]

Reading all these post about Actual Electric Savings, I think it is fair to say that if you heated by electricity before your OWF, your electric bill would be greatly reduced.  If you heated by gas or oil before your OWF, your gas or oil bill would be greatly reduced or eliminated as in my case but your electric bill may not change much.  Either way, you should be saving money! 

[Scott7m]

Just say what I was thinking

Since you brought it up though, I simply said I would never sign up for it, and that I basically didn't trust them to handle it. I also said to each there own, meaning if that's what you want, good for you and that's your choice

Just because that's my opinion don't mean that it's the holy grail, I simply stated my opinion and didn't, and still don't see how that could offend anyone

I'm sorry if you took offense to it though, that wasn't the intent


On another note:  I'm always doing different things to see how it affects my bill, I like to see the results each month in dollar amounts

[Scott7m]

Reading all these post about Actual Electric Savings, I think it is fair to say that if you heated by electricity before your OWF, your electric bill would be greatly reduced.  If you heated by gas or oil before your OWF, your gas or oil bill would be greatly reduced or eliminated as in my case but your electric bill may not change much.  Either way, you should be saving money! 

Yea overall utilities cost should be saving you a bundle, everyone in my area is electric, so it's hard for me to remember fuel oil and others, but overall savings is what it's about

[kjw58]

You guys really need to check out the Grundfos Alpha pumps.  7 different settings with a max electric usage of 45 Watts.  My original 3 speed pumps where sucking  235 watts on low, 255 watts on medium, and 285 watts on high.  Went to the Alpha pump 1 1/2 years ago working great !!

[Scott7m]

Yes they are awesome, but be careful with them, running them on auto is to slow for a owb, running it on high is a safe bet and your still only pulling 40 watts

[creeker]

Well... here it is first of March and I am still not seeing these extremely low electric Bills everyone boasts about.  With the help of ScottM and WillieG I thought I had it all sorted out as the stove has been working flawlessly.  Got my electric bill for Feb-Mar and it was $173... that was for a 28 day bill.  I even got all the breakers off except for one and that is the one required to turn the fan on to the unit.  Any ideas?

[Scott7m]

Well... here it is first of March and I am still not seeing these extremely low electric Bills everyone boasts about.  With the help of ScottM and WillieG I thought I had it all sorted out as the stove has been working flawlessly.  Got my electric bill for Feb-Mar and it was $173... that was for a 28 day bill.  I even got all the breakers off except for one and that is the one required to turn the fan on to the unit.  Any ideas?

How many kwh did you use?  How many did you use in the average winter month before the stove?

Do you leave the thermostat alone or monkey with it all the time???    Sometimes if your turning it up and down all the time it can turn on the heats trips


I overlooked we had worked on this before but just trying to find the cause..

I have customers who still have bills 150-175, but they were over 600 prior

[creeker]

1421 kwh used.   This is the first winter in this home period as we just completed construction of it in October and I installed the stove in November.

I leave the actual thermostat for the Heat Pump set to off and the thermostat I installed for the owb set to 68 at all times and never touch it.  With the owb thermostat set to 68 this keeps the heat pump thermostat showing 70, which is how we like it.   

[willieG]

im not sure what you sue electricity for in yoru home..i can make a guess that your heat pump has a nughe motor to drive teh fan? I know mine does (it is a 1 hp motor) if yours is the same it rewuires about .750 kw per hour to run...and if it runs 24/7 (as mine does) that would be about 530 kwh a month that would leave you about 1000 to run the rest of your home..electric dryer?...well water pump? electric cook stove?..im not sure what you use  but i can tell you this, if all you have is the electric bill and no other ustilities such as gas or propane..i would call that cheap

[kybaseball]

I have a old farm house that has no insulation in the walls. We have insulated the atic with spray foam that helps a lot. I am proof that you can save I can show you the bills. You house is a good size and that may not be a lot of electric for the size of the house. Last month we used 1751. That may be a lot for some but same period 2 years ago I used 7238 in a 28 day cycle.
If I was you I would get in a habit of checking the meter at the same time ever day and see what is changing the usage. I found several things that we was doing that changed it for us. I kept a detail note of what was used that day, weather outside and how much wood I used to kept the house warm. It will pay off and trust me Scott has helped me out a lot and will answer anytime I need him.
2 years ago my bill was 878.35 and the house was cool and now my bill was 182.23 with house being nice a toasty. I still am trying to get it down even more but I am very pleased with my Heatmaster.

[creeker]

I have newly constructed house that is very well insulated.  We do indeed have a electric dryer, electric stove and electric hot water heater, electric televisions and all that electric stuff.  lol 

My fan does not run anywhere remotely close to 24/7.  I realize that $173 is not an overly expensive electric bill, but when people are going on how it shouldn't be more than $80-85 a month it seems really high too me.  At this point, I would have been better off to just install a fireplace insert, it sure would've cost a TON less and required a whole lot less work.  Heck, my brother has a 3000+ sq ft house and heats solely with electric heat pump and his bill was $224... and he sat on the couch and played xBox as I split wood and loaded my owb. 

[kybaseball]

Are you not heating your water with the stove?

[Scott7m]

Are you not heating your water with the stove?

If he ain't that could be $75/mo