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[fryedaddy]

I have a conventional boiler and love it.

I'm sure it's not a efficient as the EPA boilers but can burn any thing you throw at it.
I don't burn trash in my boiler but can burn all types of wood no problem.
They are a little less maintenance and will last for a long time if you maintain it.

I hope you enjoy it!!!

[Roger2561]

A couple of friends of mine have the conventional boilers (grandfathered) and they love 'em.  Every state surrounding me (NH) is an EPA state, so there was no way to circumvent the law on this without paying through the nose for shipping so I was stuck buying the EPA unit.  It kinda sucks because perhaps a family was thinking of purchasing the conventional (cheaper) type but they cannot due to the laws rendering them out reach.  Oh well, what can one do?  Not much I guess other than at the voting booth (does that make me a pessimist or cynical?)  Roger     

[slimjim]

Roger, I will tell you that I showed our wood chip boiler to Mass DEP last week in Hopkinton Mass, ( they approved it for sale in Mass three weeks ago), we are still waiting for the Feds since last july ) they realize that they may have had a Knee jerk reaction to the issues that we in the industry created by not policing our own industry, They are open to the idea of the industry working with them to come up with a pilot program for prototype boilers that are not FED EPA approved being installed and field tested within Mass rural areas, perhaps with enough pressure from the public we as an industry can get the regulations relaxed in rural areas so that we can sell the conventional boilers again to the right ares and not in suburbia. Imagine Massachusetts of all places to use common sense. THANK YOU AGAIN MASSACHUSETTS DEP FOR YOUR COMMON SENSE APPROACH.

[MattyNH]

Roger, I will tell you that I showed our wood chip boiler to Mass DEP last week in Hopkinton Mass, ( they approved it for sale in Mass three weeks ago), we are still waiting for the Feds since last july ) they realize that they may have had a Knee jerk reaction to the issues that we in the industry created by not policing our own industry, They are open to the idea of the industry working with them to come up with a pilot program for prototype boilers that are not FED EPA approved being installed and field tested within Mass rural areas, perhaps with enough pressure from the public we as an industry can get the regulations relaxed in rural areas so that we can sell the conventional boilers again to the right ares and not in suburbia. Imagine Massachusetts of all places to use common sense. THANK YOU AGAIN MASSACHUSETTS DEP FOR YOUR COMMON SENSE APPROACH.

Pretty cool state neighbor!..

[Roger2561]

Roger, I will tell you that I showed our wood chip boiler to Mass DEP last week in Hopkinton Mass, ( they approved it for sale in Mass three weeks ago), we are still waiting for the Feds since last july ) they realize that they may have had a Knee jerk reaction to the issues that we in the industry created by not policing our own industry, They are open to the idea of the industry working with them to come up with a pilot program for prototype boilers that are not FED EPA approved being installed and field tested within Mass rural areas, perhaps with enough pressure from the public we as an industry can get the regulations relaxed in rural areas so that we can sell the conventional boilers again to the right ares and not in suburbia. Imagine Massachusetts of all places to use common sense. THANK YOU AGAIN MASSACHUSETTS DEP FOR YOUR COMMON SENSE APPROACH.

WOW!  Imagine that!  A state government using some common sense.  I wonder how long it will take for the NH legislature to do the same thing?  And, I agree, the differences between rural and urban living differ greatly.  I wonder how long it'll be before the feds figure it out?  Roger

[slimjim]

Roger if you can get me their contact info or set up a demonstation I would be happy to bring the unit to them and they can see it first hand, I am less than 2 hours from concord. I also have heard that Plymouth state colledge is interested in this technology. I also have the test results from Intertech that they could review, this is how it was approved in Mass.

[bronco79]

The check is in the mail to S&S alternative heating for a heatmaster 5000. Very excited. Looking for someone in the Western New York Area that can do the installation. Anyone with any info would be greatly appreciated

[MattyNH]

Roger, I will tell you that I showed our wood chip boiler to Mass DEP last week in Hopkinton Mass, ( they approved it for sale in Mass three weeks ago), we are still waiting for the Feds since last july ) they realize that they may have had a Knee jerk reaction to the issues that we in the industry created by not policing our own industry, They are open to the idea of the industry working with them to come up with a pilot program for prototype boilers that are not FED EPA approved being installed and field tested within Mass rural areas, perhaps with enough pressure from the public we as an industry can get the regulations relaxed in rural areas so that we can sell the conventional boilers again to the right ares and not in suburbia. Imagine Massachusetts of all places to use common sense. THANK YOU AGAIN MASSACHUSETTS DEP FOR YOUR COMMON SENSE APPROACH.

WOW!  Imagine that!  A state government using some common sense.  I wonder how long it will take for the NH legislature to do the same thing?  And, I agree, the differences between rural and urban living differ greatly.  I wonder how long it'll be before the feds figure it out?  Roger

Not only that Roger..State needs to legalized gambling...On the other note..I know a few townships that have OWB's for the highway dept. etc.. Town of Wakefield for one, Had the old style boiler for yrs ( Central) ..Recently upgraded to the epa Central..Great news what slimjim posted
 

[Roger2561]

MattyNH  - I think you're onto something here.  When more municipalities begin using them (whether they be wood chip, firewood, etc..) the state will begin to see the benefits of them.  Our high school is installing a wood chip/pellet boiler to help offset the use of fuel oil as a heat source.   

slimjim - I do not know the contact info in Concord.  Perhaps someone else on this forum will be able to offer that info. 

Roger

[slimjim]

Imagine if we as citizens could convince our local governments to see the benefits of wood, quik story, my local fire dept. burned 12,000 dollars in oil last year, we could have matched their BTU needs for about 2500 dollars in wood chips, bought 1/4 mile from the fire barn from the local logger. Imagine, 9500 in savings and 100% of that fuel cost stays within the local community. 9500 dollars stays in the fire barn for purchasing more life saving equipment. No wonder it is so difficult to sell to state or local govt. it makes to much sense!!!