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Tractor question
« on: November 26, 2013, 08:29:31 AM »

Hi all, My neighbor has an '06 Kioti CK30 that he bought new in '06 (I do not know how many hours on it).  It turns over nicely, but will not fire up.  Any ides where to look for a problem?  I know these things have many safety interlocks switches built into them and any one of them can raise havoc with it.  But before we start looking at switches, where else would I most likely find something that can cause this problem?  No doubt I'm overlooking something very simple but I cannot think of it.  Thanks in advance for the information and help.  Roger
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 02:23:32 PM »

do you know it is getting fuel? an 06 yousay, has the sediment bowl or fuel filter ever been cleaned or changed? does it have a little pump on the engine to pump the lines full in case of running out of fuel, if so  pumping this, you should feel resistance.  i have a small case tractor and if one of the switches is tripped it will not even crank (not sure if your tractor is like this or not)
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2013, 04:48:11 PM »

Fuel gelled? Mine did a couple weeks ago.
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2013, 03:51:52 AM »

Unfortunately, I'm not that familiar with the Kioti line of tractors.  I really don't know what he's done for service lately.  The only thing he mentioned is he put a fuel conditioner in it to prevent the fuel from gelling.  He says he does this every year and this is the first year he's experiencing any trouble with the tractor.  I hope to see him this weekend and see what we can do to get his tractor operating again.  Thanks for the suggestions.  I appreciate it.  Roger
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2013, 06:12:32 AM »

Keep us posted. I just got my tractor this year and I'm sure it will not start at some point. Its good to learn from the experiences of others.

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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2013, 06:29:40 AM »

Preheater/glow plugs not working?
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2013, 08:12:24 AM »

Preheater/glow plugs not working?

Interesting thought.  Another place to look if all else fails.  Thanks for the suggesting it.  Roger
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2013, 06:36:36 PM »

Check to see if the safety switch under the seat is ok, my daughter went to get the tractor this summer, sat on the edge of the seat and said it wouldn't start, just kept turning over. She is only 12 and not heavy enough to activate it.
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2013, 06:26:58 AM »

I heard back from my neighbor; the one whose Kioti CK30 will turn over but not fire.  He says on Wednesday he purged air from the fuel lines.  He says the tractor started right up.  He used it for about an hour non stop; plenty of power.  Thursday morning he went to use it again and same as before; it would turn over but not start.  He tried again Friday morning and again, it would turn over but not start.  My suspicion is that there is an air leak in the fuel line somewhere.  Does anyone know how to test for an air leak in a fuel line?  Thanks in advance for the assistance.  Roger
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2013, 08:22:04 AM »

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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2013, 04:34:12 PM »

Hello all, I heard from this evening.  He said he got his tractor going.  It appears that the last time he put fuel in the tank he forgot to put the anti-gel additive it.  At his wits end (it doesn't take long) he decided to put some in the fuel tank on the tractor and let it sit for a couple of hours.  He then went outside and it fired right up.  He's going to let it sit overnight and possibly all day tomorrow and try it Saturday morning.  The temps Friday night are expected to fall into the 20's so Saturday morning will be a good test for it.  You see, my neighbor suffers from the same disease I do; sometimes disease.  Sometime you remember things, sometimes you don't.  It appears this happens to one of them.  Roger
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2013, 02:39:46 PM »

Diesels only need fuel, air, compression/ heat  to run. If the problem pursists there should be some sort of check valve usually found in the fuel filter housing if it keeps loosing prime. If the fuel is jelling up a additive like diesel heat or cetane booster helps. I just found this part of the forum and am a heavy diesel mechanic. I don't wonder to this part of the forum oftem but if anyone is haveing problems feel free to p.m. me and I'll get back asap.
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2013, 06:15:21 PM »

Thanks ECC!
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2013, 06:56:52 PM »

Also there is a summer diesel fuel and winter diesel fuel. Winter diesel fuel has a antigel formula put into it. Can and will it still jell up? Yes, It takes alot more than the summer blend though. So if he doesn't run it alot and had summer fuel in the tank it could have gelled easier. Also note that leaving a diesel tank low for a long period of time will easily grow algae (SP?) like that grows in a fish tank only different lol. Its best to store a diesel with a full fuel tank rather than half full. Cheaper than spending alot of money on fuel filters in the spring summer etc. No problem hondaracer. Its the least I could do after gettin the info off this forum!
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Re: Tractor question
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2013, 04:56:49 AM »

This is my first year with a tractor. What do you all use for a diesel additive? I just bought Diesel 911 on the recommendation of my farmer step dad.

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