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[Wood Nutt]

Speed, if I did not know better, I would say we have the same saw.  Mine does the same thing.  Agree with the crappy caps, another down for that saw.  I will try the grease trick and see if that helps.  thanks.

My 210 cracked on the tank in the same place.  I cleaned it up and took some JB Weld and built up a shoulder around the outlet which strengthened it.  You can give that a try, might save you from replacing the tank.

I have the same 425 John Deere, but mine is I think a '96 with the V-twin Kawasaki.  Believe it or not, I bought if for $250 and it had 410 hours on it.  But, it was what I call a basket case, motor and front end disassembled and in a couple of cardboard boxes.  The guy I bought it from borrowed my trailer and took it into the shop to get fixed.  they tore it down and told him it would cost $3000 to fix and offered him the $250 as trade in on a new mower.  Made him mad, so he loaded it up, paid the ransom for the teardown labor, and went to Sears and bought a Craftsman (he should have kept the Deere).  Worked out OK for me, just  a little time on my part, some assembly required  .

[Speed]

I've been meaning to get some jb weld for it, just haven't yet. Glad to hear it works. $250 for a 425! I wish I'd have that kind of luck. Even though you had to put money in it, its still a smoking deal! I love mine. I use the @@@@ out of it. Even though there are big tractors around here and I use the little one for anything its capable of. 

[nstueve]

I have a 210 Stihl so I know all about them, my Dad gave me one to use when he went to Florida said he had no use for it but didn't want to sell it. I'd rather he gave me the 038 mag II he had. But whatever. As for the air cleaner, put a bead of grease around it, it'll seal up fine. Now the rest of the saw.....I hate that little SOB! It has caused me to off all Stihl products on the premises. It sits all by itself on the shelf now, drained of fuel and oil. Not that I would have had too. Stupid flippy caps never sealed right, ever. This one runs decent, everything else on it just grinds my gears. Quick adjust? Yeah thankfully. Because you adjust it all the time since it won't stay adjusted. The fuel line nipple on top of the is cracked, so it needs a whole tank/handle/cradle assembly. How in blue blazes would that crack?

I just bought a Dolmar 421 to replace it, I've been running Dolmar since they were Sachs-Dolmar 20 some years ago. I don't think I'll venture off that path anymore unless I need a 100cc plus saw.

I work on saws more than a fair bit... I will never go back to box store saws. That being said many brand have "box store" models and pro models just like the JD tractors. There will never be anything sold at a box store that is worth writing home about. Some might be ok and even good but none will be GREAT like professional equipment.

That being said... You need to try the new Dolmar 6100. It will blow your hair back. Better than a 6400 because its right there in power and it's lighter.

[Speed]

Nstueve, did you find a 6100 in smurf blue to match the rest of your collection, lol? I have been watching them talk about them at the other site a little, but would like to run one. You seem impressed with the weight, but I've been questioning why they made it. .1 HP less and the weight is shown almost the same. I'd like to know more about them. Is it noticeably lighter than a 64? It may be a good excuse to buy one as an in betweener and BB the 6421? Aaarrrrggghh. There goes the CAD again.

[nstueve]

Nstueve, did you find a 6100 in smurf blue to match the rest of your collection, lol? I have been watching them talk about them at the other site a little, but would like to run one. You seem impressed with the weight, but I've been questioning why they made it. .1 HP less and the weight is shown almost the same. I'd like to know more about them. Is it noticeably lighter than a 64? It may be a good excuse to buy one as an in betweener and BB the 6421? Aaarrrrggghh. There goes the CAD again.

its alomst 0.9lbs lighter which is significant for an all day work saw. Also to answer the question why... They might be doing it for several reasons. The first I can think of is that strato saws pass epa emissions easier, have almost the same power and use less fuel. All good reasons to switch for a pro user. The second is that Dolmar may be switching over to a new line up soon. They haven't had anything over 79cc in the USA market for a while now. The 6400-7900 line is an awesome saw but heavy for 64cc and everyone finds the 64cc and slaps the 84cc BBK on them in order to have the same power as a 7900/7910. You might also consider that the 6400-7300-7900-7910 line is over 10 years old now and they might be eventually replacing them with larger versions of the 6100 strato saw. Further more Dolmar lost ground on power to weight when comparing the Stihl ms362 and husky 562 to their 6400. Everyone wants more power and less weight these days. I personally would still take the 6400/6401 b/c you can swap out a top end and have 79cc-84cc. You can't do that with the 362 or 562.

Anyway I'm of the opinion that they are switching over to the 6100 to keep up with other pro saws in the same 60cc saw class and to stay ahead of power to weight & EPA regs.

As for the Blue version of the 6100... If you know someone outside the USA that will ship me one from the UK, AU, or EU let me know!

[Wood Nutt]

Speed, the grease trick on the filter seems to work.  But the crappy flippy oil fill cap on my Stihl 210 broke again.  I put my last spare on (I think I bought 4 of them 2-3 years ago) and tried buying another replacement to keep in my stock when in town today and they are sold out at the shop.  If the Efco holds up, I may just get rid of the 210!   Do you need it for parts or to keep its twin that you own, company on your shelf of shame for abandoned saws?

[nstueve]

Speed, the grease trick on the filter seems to work.  But the crappy flippy oil fill cap on my Stihl 210 broke again.  I put my last spare on (I think I bought 4 of them 2-3 years ago) and tried buying another replacement to keep in my stock when in town today and they are sold out at the shop.  If the Efco holds up, I may just get rid of the 210!   Do you need it for parts or to keep its twin that you own, company on your shelf of shame for abandoned saws?

That's about the biggest complaint I've heard on the newer stihl's is breaking the flippy caps. I walked into my dealer the other day to get a couple and asked how many he had in stock. He motioned me to come to the back and showed me a 2'long x 3'wide x 1.5'deep... It was divided into 2 compartments for the two different common size caps. It was heaped to the brim and he said they order 100 at a time... What does that tell you?

I'll be interested to hear more about the efco's and how they are holding up these days. I know another local shop near me picked them up...

[Speed]

NO!! I don't want another Stihl, lol! This one will be gone soon. Haven't touched it since probably early September. Glad to hear the grease thing is working for you. Hopefully that little Efco works out, can't beat the price you got it for! I was just at the hardware yesterday, got talking with the owner about them again, he says they seem to be holding up, very little repair issues coming back.

 Nstueve, I did look that up I guess it is lighter than I thought. For some reason I was thinking it was closer to the 64. I was wondering if the 61 was going to usher in a new line for epa and strato etc etc. I would like to see them come back with a big gun again, 100cc or so would be nice. Then I can go mess with my cousin and chase his 066 around the woods, lol. Why do you need a blue 6100 shipped from overseas? I thought Bailey's had them available? If not, I'd almost ask 7, I bet he'd help you.

That's hilarious about the huge flippy cap stock pile! I've thought for years they were just doing it for profit. If Stihl makes a dollar profit off each one, and I'm sure its more, pretty good pocket dipper they got there.

[nstueve]

NO!! I don't want another Stihl, lol! This one will be gone soon. Haven't touched it since probably early September. Glad to hear the grease thing is working for you. Hopefully that little Efco works out, can't beat the price you got it for! I was just at the hardware yesterday, got talking with the owner about them again, he says they seem to be holding up, very little repair issues coming back.

 Nstueve, I did look that up I guess it is lighter than I thought. For some reason I was thinking it was closer to the 64. I was wondering if the 61 was going to usher in a new line for epa and strato etc etc. I would like to see them come back with a big gun again, 100cc or so would be nice. Then I can go mess with my cousin and chase his 066 around the woods, lol. Why do you need a blue 6100 shipped from overseas? I thought Bailey's had them available? If not, I'd almost ask 7, I bet he'd help you.

That's hilarious about the huge flippy cap stock pile! I've thought for years they were just doing it for profit. If Stihl makes a dollar profit off each one, and I'm sure its more, pretty good pocket dipper they got there.

Yea I can look up just about anything I want pertaining to chainsaws. I work on them on the weekends and know my stuff inside and out pretty well.

I have a thing for "Blue" chainsaws. I have a small collection of Maktia Chainsaws b/c it's something that other saw collectors don't really care about, and they are new enough you can use them to cut as well as look at on the shop self. The 6100 Dolmar is currently under the knife and getting ported by another sawhawgz.com member who in infamous for good chainsaw modifications. We'll see what he can do with it. You should go sign up in Sawhawgz.com and watch/read along.