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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2014, 09:15:54 AM »

Hey sloppy,  what pump are you using and are you putting it in your basement or on the back of the stove?
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #76 on: July 03, 2014, 12:24:53 AM »

Hey sloppy,  what pump are you using and are you putting it in your basement or on the back of the stove?

Most likely a Grundfos Alpha stainless steel on the furnace outside.
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #77 on: August 06, 2014, 10:46:08 AM »

Sloppy,
Where did you get the Link-Seal ?
I looked on line at Lowes, but comes up empty.
Thanks
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #78 on: August 06, 2014, 08:06:30 PM »

Sloppy,   where did you get the Link-Seal ?
I looked on line at Lowes, but comes up empty. Thanks

FACO LLC
8651 Castle Park Drive
Indianapolis, IN 46256
(317) 842-3226


LINKFACO LLC on Google Maps (Click Here)

FACO can mail a Link-Seal product to you but I do not know what shipping charges would be.  I have no professional or personal affiliation with this company (but this is where I bought mine).   :)
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2014, 07:42:46 AM »

Hey nice job on the install.  Us newbies really appreciate all of your efforts.  Do you mind if I PM you on a couple of Logstor questions I might have?  I need to buy some and you might be able to help me out.  We live in Owen County Indiana.  Thanks so much.
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2014, 08:24:10 AM »

I replied to your PM and "yes" to Logstor questions.  just shoot me a PM. ;)
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #81 on: August 19, 2014, 10:00:31 AM »

BTW, where did you end up renting the drill and 6" bit to get through your basement wall? 
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #82 on: August 19, 2014, 10:55:58 AM »

BTW, where did you end up renting the drill and 6" bit to get through your basement wall?

SunBelt Rentals in front of Lowes at 10th street and I-465 in Indianapolis (west side).
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Re: PICTURES: Tour de P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44
« Reply #83 on: August 19, 2014, 08:42:21 PM »

Plenty 'O Pictures of the Portage & Main BL34-44 Shaker for my buddy slimjim.  O0 :thumbup:



The cooled water return ports are tucked upwards in the back of the rear access panel opening.  One of the feed lines is also visible in the picture.

Just to make sure, in the pictures above you mention that the cooled water returns are tucked upwards, those are really the supply lines and the lower connection at the bottom is the return correct?  According to my drawing from P&M, the supply is at the top and the returns are at the bottom.  I sure hope that is right as I just finished connecting all of pumps etc.. in the back of the boiler and I piped with the supply at the top and the returns at the bottom :-\
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #84 on: August 20, 2014, 04:21:49 AM »

You are right EE, supply should be on the top and returns on bottom
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Back in the Saddle!: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #85 on: October 23, 2014, 11:52:20 AM »

September 28, 2014:  I had many projects to finish over the summer that took precedence over my BL 34-44 installation.... until 3 weeks ago.   

I utilized my New Holland TC33D 4WD tractor and 7308 loader in order to excavate a site for a 120" x 80" concrete pad.  The tractor proved "too useful" for such a task and the hole was dug too deep at around 14 inches.  :o :-[  Buy hey, that is okay, just keep filling and compacting stone in there!  Ended up with 12-14" of compacted stone for my base when all was said and done.  8)







Chalk up costs of:

$75 Whacker plate compactor rental
$20 diesel
$25 stone (neighbor had leftover stone)
FREE labor (self  :P )
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #86 on: October 23, 2014, 12:11:46 PM »

October 11-18, 2014:  Completed construction of 2" x 6" forms for the 120" x 80" concrete pad while also completing the installation and placement and wire-tying of God's gift to concrete pads: #4 rebar! WOOT!  3" rebar chairs were utilized to raise the rebar up off the compacted stone and locate them further in the concrete for a better overall pad strength. 

Remember this much:  rebar is cheap (in the grand scheme of concrete things) and overkill never hurts in concrete structures holding heavy things.  :thumbup:







Brother-in-law Dave (and myself) enjoying the day waiting for the concrete truck to arrive ( 1/ 1/2 hours late, LOL!)





As one could deduce from the pictures, my original idea for a 4" thick pad turned out to be much thicker at 8" thickness.  Quite simply, I was tired of moving frontend loaders of stone and decided to make up the remaining grade with concrete, rebar, and steel mesh.

For concrete afficionados' informational purposes, I used the only local ready-mix concrete provider within 20 miles of my home, Cash Concrete Products, Inc (CCP).  CCP delivered a really good load of concrete:  4" slump 4,000 psi concrete mix with air, fiber, and stone.

A total of 1 3/4 cubic yards of concrete was utilized (2 yards ordered) and front end loadered up the hill with my New Holland (6-wheel drive concrete truck sunk in the yard and could not climb the hill  :( ). 

Chalk up:

$326 up for concrete delivered.
$20 for 120 pounds #4 rebar (lots of free leftovers in the price ;) the $20 is for a couple bars of #4 I had to buy at Lowes to finish the rebar layout)
$0 for 16 oz. Cure N Seal concrete sealant
1.6 lbs Lasagna & 2 servings Blackberry Cobbler (priceless) for Concrete Finisher Labor



Rebar was donated free-of-charge by my brother-in-law Dave.  Dave also taught me how to properly finish concrete for this type of application (dumping, leveling, floating, edging, floating in steel mesh, brushing, and curing and sealing).  Always awesome to have a construction/concrete professional in the family to guide me! 

Not pictured but present is Lowes' steel wire mesh floated into the top of the pad 2 inches below the finished surface.  Because I was running the tractor, I was unable to take "action photos" during the pour.  :(





Indiana D.O.T.-approved cure and seal sealing agent (white pigmented) was utilized to seal the concrete and allow for proper curing of the pad.  I will have to retrieve the name of the product from the 5-gallon bucket later,,, forgot what the name brand (sealant) was.  ;)  Pictures show a spacious "cutout" for navigating the Logstor piping and electrical wire/conduit up into the Ultimizer.







Dirt (heavy clay really) from the pad excavation was utilized to make the finish grade around the pad level with its finished surface.  The water is from me spraying off the surface after my goats drug dirt all over it and pooped on it.  :o :bash: :P







Up next?  A Case 621 (Click Here for Machine Specs) to lift and carry the BL 34-44 up the hill and onto the new pad and begin hookup to the BL 34-44 boiler.  I have a machine scheduled to move the BL 34-44 into place this weekend.  I will take more photos during the boiler move and the upcoming indoor plumbing installation.  :)
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #87 on: October 26, 2014, 10:11:59 AM »

  Nice job on the pad Sloppy! What are the odds of hitting the rebar when/ if you drill for anchoring the stove?
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #88 on: October 26, 2014, 06:27:31 PM »

  Nice job on the pad Sloppy! What are the odds of hitting the rebar when/ if you drill for anchoring the stove?

Not to be a smart *ss, but anchor the stove? Is somebody going to steal it?
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Re: Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« Reply #89 on: October 26, 2014, 07:35:03 PM »

I was kinda wondering the same thing Mlappin!
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