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[Lamont]

I've narrowed down my search to a Heatmor 200 CSS and a Portage & Main Ultimizer BL 2840.  Both dealers seem good enough guys to deal with, but the Heatmor dealer is 20 miles away and the P&M dealer is about 270 miles away.

My major question between these two units is efficiency?  Does the P&M Ultimizer series really burn that much more efficiently, or do I just go with my gut and choose the Heatmor based on feedback and proximity of the dealer?  I know guys first hand that have Heatmors without problems and one guy that has had his 200 CSS for 20 years and is ordering another before EPA regulations take effect.

Will the P&M really consume a lot less wood for a 1550 sq ft new home, 24x24 attached garage, and 30x40 shop (all with radiant in-floor tubes in concrete)?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

[TheBoiler]

If you are concerned about efficiency then neither.

They are traditional OWB's which have the added option of burning coal.

[slimjim]

This is one of those times that I'm going to set back and Lurk, not that I don't care but I choose to let others speak their minds without my input.

[Jwood]

Pick the one you think looks the best I know a lot of people that swear by their Heatmor, too many variables in wood consumption to get an exact answer unless someone out there traded a Heatmor for the new BL. I'm personally going to be buying Bl because I like what I saw in person and everyone around me has Heatmor, CB, or heatmaster and I like to be just a little different! P.S. I will have lots of questions for you Slim!

[slimjim]

Thanks Jwood, please let Brian know you are here

[CountryBoyJohn]

I looked at Heatmore back when I was searching. Too many gimmicks for me. Expansion bladder, sand, anode rod.  The P&M is much simpler. I prefer my Heatmaster to either, but if you're down to those two,  I'm landing on the P&M.

[Jwood]

Slim when you say let Brian know who I am what exactly do you mean sorry if that's a dumb question I'm still new to the site besides browsing for hours on end but I'm here now to stay!

[diesel-dodge]

I have had the centeral boiler 5036 and I currently have the heatmor 200ss and im looking for a different conventional boiler with better effiency. My heatmor seems to really go thru the wood. I will say that it has been pretty reliable.The bladder has been somewhat of a bother but nothing major. I just want something conventional that's more efficient. I think that from looking the for efficient the more money it is also so it all goes hand in hand in my opinion.
jason

[slimjim]

Jwood, simply that we are trying to track any business that comes from this site, we will give a small discount to customers who come from this site

[Jwood]

So just call Brian at P&M? I'm actually only 225 miles from Piney

[slimjim]

Yes, I'm not sure if there is a local dealer, if not he will sell it direct and you could pick it up.

[Scott7m]

That's an easy one,  portage and main far more efficient

[whitepine2]

 I like my P&M uses 1/3 the wood my first OWB did. A little house keeping but  well worth it IMO. Would buy again no brainier and all questions answered and and advice given.
                          Whitepine2

[Scott7m]

If you are concerned about efficiency then neither.

They are traditional OWB's which have the added option of burning coal.

No, not exactly

Not even close really.

The p and m bl is a brick lines series that has no water in the lower part of stove,  it burns hotter and cleaner than the heat mor

It also features a heat exchanger in the top of the unit that really allows the stove to capture more heat, stack temps are way lower on those models with additional heat exchange than those that dont

[Lamont]

Thanks everybody.  I appreciate the feedback.  Slim - do I mention to my dealer in WI that this site helped make my decision or is that a factory direct deal?