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[mlappin]

Oh I would, on the snow melt that is. Takes more wood but the convenience of having a dry sidewalk or pad is well worth it. Also been told the cement will last longer if your not dumping salt on it all the time.

[Big Wood]

Hey slim take a step back and look that is the way life used to be be for big government looks like you can still live like that

[slimjim]

   The homeowners said they never had a cop until a couple years ago,now they have a resident sheriff, she was well accepted until she started handing out seat belt tickets, she doesn't do that any more!

[slimjim]

  I have received a few requests for pics of the install here, first is the heat exchanger and then the manifold for radiant loops, we had to build our own manifold as commercial units with this many loops would take up far to much space, the 1 1/4 is the primary loop from the plate exchanger, the bottom of the primary is all radiant, we are using Ultra Fin, the top will be cast iron rads and home made towel racks in the baths

[sceptre74]

Looks real nice slim. I can only hope mine looks half as nice as that

[slimjim]

Thanks sceptre, Imagination, planning and patience is all it really takes, as you have probably noticed, I LIKE COPPER!

[sceptre74]

I definitely does a nicer job

[slimjim]

I tried to post some pics of the side arm heater that I built to fit the water tank on site, it is 41 inches long and has 20 feet of 14 gauge wire wrapped around the 3/4 inch pipe to increase the heat transfer surface area perhaps one of our math wizards could help with the #'s, I have tried and it always makes my head hurt, the forum says my file is to big, if anybody wishes to see it PM me your E-Mail and I'll send pics

[slimjim]

Not a lot of room to stretch out and relax under the house where we are putting in the Ultra Fin radiant

[Sloppy_Snood]

Great pictures SlimJim. 

Have you used the Ultra Fin radiant product before this particular job?  How is the customer feedback on Ultra Fin's performance in keeping the floor and home warm?

What does he Ultra-Fin produc cost (generally) and how many are needed per unit area?

I am very interested in this product as many of the other radiant floor heating options require stripping to the subfloor and are quite expensive.

Thank you for all of your information! 

[slimjim]

I have used it a few times and all are very impressed, this house had no heat other than electric baseboard and 1 soapstone wood stove, they froze their butts off last winter! I like it because it heats the entire bay not just the surface contacted by the staple up, you can run 185 degree water through it without damaging the floor for that reason, Ultra Fin looks for a plate every 2 feet, I usually add more around the perimeter of the building especially on the cold side of the house as we did here, 3 zones with 8 loops

[Sloppy_Snood]

I have used it a few times and all are very impressed, this house had no heat other than electric baseboard and 1 soapstone wood stove, they froze their butts off last winter! I like it because it heats the entire bay not just the surface contacted by the staple up, you can run 185 degree water through it without damaging the floor for that reason, Ultra Fin looks for a plate every 2 feet, I usually add more around the perimeter of the building especially on the cold side of the house as we did here, 3 zones with 8 loops

Thanks slim.  Do you run that hot of a temperature (185°F) if the home was heated exclusively with radiant floor heat?

My question lies around my paricular design where I will be using radiant floor in conjunction with my forced air system.  I know I have not sketched up a layout yet (but I will) but when used in conjunction with a forced air system (vents are also located in the same area that will receive some radiant via Ultra-Fins), I can (should?) run lower temperature through the loops?

thanks for any information as I really appreciate the education from professional installers like yourself. 

[slimjim]

No  need to change the temps.

[Sloppy_Snood]

No  need to change the temps.

Thank you Slim. 

[mlappin]

Nice pictures of the ultra fin. Are you going to install insulation to the bottom sides of the floor joists yet?

I wish I knew about the ultra fin before I remodeled our bedroom. On the first floor, not a crawl space to speak of so I would have drilled the floor joists and had the radiant in place before installing the sub floor.

Was just wondering if it will still work in a tight crawl space with no insulation attached to the bottom of the floor joists.